Written by Rogue, Sturgis Freedom Fighters, Motorcycle Hall Of Fame Member 2005
“Steven Tyler made a total ass of himself in Sturgis. Tuesday evening he attended Michael Lichter’s Rebel Rousers VIP Event and had trouble navigating around the room, and to me appeared to be under the influence of something. As he was trying to make it across the room the two thugs he had with him were yelling for the crowd to get out of the way. That may be the way they handle things in the music crowd, but it is not how it is done in the motorcycle world and more than one of the people there made comment on it and I had to ask one of the bikers there who was offended by what went on not to do anything inside the building out of respect for Michael.
If the thugs continue this type of behavior it is only a matter of time before someone sees if they are any good or not. Wednesday morning while attending the Sturgis motorcycle Hall Of Fame Breakfast, Charlie St. Clair who was inducted into the Hall Of Fame in 2008 was telling of a incident he had the previous evening while traveling east on RT 34. He was in the left lane and came up on a group in the right lane and when he attempted to pass in his lane two thugs were yelling to Stay Back. Charlie said he continued to attempt to pass the group but was instructed by law enforcement to not do so.
This happened a short time before I observed Steven Tyler at the Rebel Rousers event. My question would be why would law enforcement be restricting traffic on a public roadway? Now realizing the short period of time between the incident on the public roadway and the time I observed him at the event, I would have to question why he was allowed to operate a vehicle in that condition. Again with a law enforcement escort. I would also note that local law enforcement were stopping numerous vehicles and giving sobriety checks and arresting many people while this was going on.If South Dakota law enforcement is going to enforce any law it should be to everyone.
As far as the incident of him falling off the stage at the Buffalo Chip, those that had a opportunity to see him before he went on stage also commented on his condition and were not surprised that he fell. I suspect there are other incidents I am not aware of as well”. Rogue. (picture Steven Tyler in concert at Buffalo Chip, copyright Kristina Barker)
Name the thugs and name the cops. Pics of all will help. Good article about this non-biker little bitch, Rogue. Seems like you nailed his junkie, brainless act.
Some one once told me that Mr tyler stated that he was desperate and vulnerable. … I am always terrified…. Beauty can sometimes be so very troublesome
well put Roque. I thought the same thing Tuesday night.
If you or I had acted in that manner and used Body Guards to shove folks around ….. they would have found a hole under the jail for us…..
I am so tired of Law Enforcement, the NFL, Nascar, and the Music Industry turning their heads and allowing these so called “Famous People” to get away with everything from murder to drunk driving, I could just scream…. Whoopsss one just slipped out over Vicks being allow back on the playing field.
I remember bike events with bands that actually supported bikers and would sit and have a few brews with us after their set was over. Now it seems they hire this weeks special and give them special privileges.
Kudos for speaking up and caling an asshole an asshole!
Maybe next time someone will just kick the shit out of these assholes body guard sand they wont come back! Amen
Having seen Tyler in Daytona a few times it’s a wonder he’s still living. Tyler for years has been on the edge.
I can only think, he thinks, he’s still on top and no body will mind if he shows his ass.
Ahhhh, for the hey days of DAC…………………………..
“Tyler” who….???
Does the world need another Mick Jagger look-alike……….???
-nicker-
The motorcycle industry is getting a real bad name for letting this guy in and other pretenders to the throne.
Steven Tyler is useless as a musician and never was nor will be a biker. He is just another bloodsucker in the industry.
Love the post Cyril, popular or not you do tend to sway towards the average Joe, and probably why you blog and posts are at the top of their game. Bad days, bad folks…. they are everywhere…
If Tyler doesn’t behave respectfully in biker events, he has nothing to do among us. Simple. Boycott his “Dirico Motorcycles” business. Don’t go to see him perform in any biker event, I agree, Kudos to Cyril for publishing Rogue’s letter because it seems that he knows Tyler (pic together in his website).
Been there saw that ….the dance was good Thursday morning!
I hate to hear that. I’ve always been a big fan of Aerosmith.
Maybe the thugs were trying to impress Tyler, but he should have spoke up and put them in their place.
Everyone in Aerosmith has supposedly been “clean and sober” for a long time. It would be a shame to find out he relapsed.
I personally wouldn’t have gotten out of their way.
Always the same with that kind of “famous people” .
Because they don’t know what to doo with their money, they think they can buy themselves a way intoo something they don’t know a sh*t about.
It is sad, very sad.
RE Nicker ; liked your remark “Mick Jagger look-alike”.
We don’t need another big-mouth-frog
on the scene, specialy not on the biker-scene.
Peace Gustian
” Does the world need another Mick Jagger look-alike……….??? ”
-nicker-
This story kind of reminds me of Mick Jagger and the stones at the ” Altamont Raceway music Festival ” , anyone remember that ? and the out come ? Pretty little boys, should be respectful, when there are much bigger and badder boys around !
It’s the same old story of privilege, prestige and fame. Except of 1 thing Mr. Tyler. YOU SHOWED YOUR ASS TO BIKERS, AND TO BIKER PRESS.
The thing about the society of bikers Mr. Tyler, that you so obviously didn’t study…is that the behavior you see at the rallies…is not the behavior of serious and lifelong bikers. There is no doubt the people you were with that night have partied before…and there is no doubt they will continue to party after you…but they have learned there is an order of respect one gives to those who have earned the privildge…and while you may be a “great” front man for a well respected band…you haven’t earned the title of “BIKER”. Just because you have the money and the “image” to hire bike builders and put YOUR name on their work, can’t make you a biker. It’s a LIFESTYLE, not an image. Just because Harley Davidson has spent a fortune selling our image, don’t make YOU or anyone else a BIKER, without learning the hard knocks, living the road, or suffering the idiots such as you who TRY to walk among us.
One last comment. The journalists of the biker world are NOT bound by the political nicities…the pubilic outcry for “respecting” the famous. They WILL expose the idiots for what they are when they start to walk among us without regard to OUR ETHICS.
Rouge my friend well put. Some people can drink and some people can drug. Steven is one of those that can do neither. What a waste of talent. I have an idea, why not introduce him to Michael Jackson’s doctor, he seems to make the pain go away…..
Dude looks like a lady… and acts like a bitch?
The term “Biker” seems to be loosely thrown around these days as in the movie “Wild Hogs”, which by the way made me puke! OK, take that times 400,000 and you have Sturgis 2009! All these clowns trying to play what they think it’s all about, which to them is Boobs and Booze. The bike is secondary, “Yeah , I just bought one so I can wear the costume and act like an idiot!” Wrench on them, God forbid, I might miss the wine-tasteing at the Fondue stage, maybe someone famous [Tyler] will be there acting the same way to reinforce my clueless gestures. Sure I see an underlying rage and frustration in today’s society that makes the biker lifestyle appealing, but they just dabble in it and then go right back into the system and support it. To them it’s all about money, their new motorhome with the new Harley towed behind. Blasting by them at 90 mph on my put together from old parts chopper with all my gear to survive bungied on, having to fix something at every gas stop. That’s what it’s all about baby!! They’ll never know the Freedom that brings! By the way I saw you Rogue in Nemo along side the road takin’ yer pictures, I was on the Goodtime Charlie bike, you know what I’m talkin’ about. Keep it real, Wiz
Now, this is the Biker world I just love and live for.
Call it as you see it, kick-ass when an ass kickin’ is called for.
This said, Tyler needs to apologize to our community.
If ya need rehab (again) get your ass in there. If you want to hang around genuine bikers, you best get authentic and respectful real fast.
By the way, Aerosmith is one of my favorite bands and loved by many of my friends.
Suggest you publically apologize to us lifers via Cyril’s Blog and Bandit’s Bikernet.com – sooner rather than later “Bro”.
BikerMarc
Tyler reading Cyril. Let’s see what he does. Nothing or apology.
I was at Michaels invitational viewing Tuesday evenimg and was stunned by being pushed out of the way so tyler could have his own private viewing who wasn’t even interested in checking out the bikes on display anyway. This is our industry and we had many guests in attendance and everyone respected each other except this guy. His actions were totally inappropriate and inexcuseable.
I did not care one bit he was there and was minding my own business enjoying the display and the good people there when I got a blind side push out of the way. I think his ego needs to be put in check, we are not the groupies he sees at concerts and none of us gave a damn he or his crappy production bikes were in Sturgis.
I find this whole thing rather amusing. I not only am a builder/shop owner but have for more than 20 years done security for people like our friend Mr. Tyler. I have worked for almost every act in many genres of music. The last time I worked for Aerosmith they were very much towing the line of being clean and sober, not sure anymore though. It’s not just Steven Tyler that acts this way, I’d say the majority of Rock acts are the same way. Not so much in Country and Rap to be honest although there is always an exception to every rule. The Rap artists tend to use large entourages, some are their security people. The Country artists tend to be more open to talking and being with their fans. The Rock, especially well known, older acts do tend to carry a lot of security and to be honest most of them aren’t very good at their job. This whole scene doesn’t surprise me at all. Seen it before and will see it again. Assuming he doesn’t cancel I’ll be doing a show with Aerosmith in a few weeks so we’ll see how that goes, if it goes at all.
The bike builder side of me isn’t at all impressed with his cookie cutter bikes he’s pimping. Just another celebrity trying to cash in on the biker scene with their fame, nothing to be impressed about there.
I saw Tyler at the Legends ride and made the comment that he looked like he was F’dU.
I didn’t see the bodyguards push people at Michael’s party but that is not uncommon in that industry. I saw a couple of patch holders there that I’m sure would have taken offense if they had been shoved. I’m sure no one retaliated out of respect for Michael so the incidents of thuggery were tolerated.
Only a true egomaniac has to have “his people” at an event like that. Especially when there were so many famous and truly talented motorcycle people there and they could care less about someone like Steven Tyler whose “peeps” were making asses of themselves.
I’d much rather hang out with Dee Snyder anyway.
Well I have been waiting for someone to expose the actions of Steven Tyler at motorcycle events.
I had no contact with him this year at Sturgis, Thank God. Last year my wife and I had an incident at the Rats Hole Show at the Thunder Dome.
We were walking in a walkway between bikes when this group of people coming the other direction in the same walkway and we were pushed out of the way and almost ended up on someone’s show bike next to us. We found out that it was Steven Tyler’s group with him in the middle. At that time I said what goes around comes around and he will get his in time, I guess it was the time when the lightning hit the stage and he fell off the stage in the same concert.
Maybe, Mr. Tyler will have some time during his recovery, to think about how he treats people that made him what he is by buying Aerosmith music and paying outrageous prices to go to their concerts.
Rogue, as always you put it out there just like it was, I happened to be standing with Kiwi Mike and Trish from Baker Drivetrain when we were “big timed” by his “bodyguards’ and let me tell you this as big of a guy as Iam physically I would never piss off Kiwi Mike because he was ready to kick some ass LOL!!!!! I hate that this happened at Michael’s party because he is as always a great guy and a pleasure to speak with anytime I happen to see him, an awesome party with great people and food other than that! Roadside
Yo-yo Roadside…me chopped liver dude? I was happy to see peeps PO about it! It should have never happened. There were big names there as well that come from the same music industry – Snyder and Pat Simmons that didn’t need “body guards” to get them thru a crowd that is not “star struck” or a bunch of pansy-ass screaming lil girls….. wrong place- wrong time!
On twitter from the Buffalo Chip.
“TheChip@mikegreenwald I’m not sure if I can agree.. It was great seeing the Legendary Aerosmith on our stage even though it was sadly cut short”
Wake up call! A leopard can not change it’s spots.
ST should stick to being Aerosmiths front man.
He is neither a ‘custom’ bike builder nor a biker.
He’s lucky he didn’t get a beating.
Also I personally have little respect for the AMD ‘custom’ comp. (respect to winners and competitors)
Who do think they are?’ After a short five years in the industry they claim to be ‘the authority’
I see a bunch of self serving media publicity people beating their own drums and stealing the loot and limelight the BIKER WORLD has struggled to create.
Wake up my friends and give due credit to those who have GONE before us to create what is now a big business.
SUPPORT BIKERS!
The Buffalo Chip wants specific examples of Steven Tyler and his thugs being disrespectful and his being a poser.
TheChip@mikegreenwald specific instances that you can share?
Next time, give him Arlen Ness and Cyril Huze as “body guards” and Tyler will have no problem socializing with the custom motorcycle scene.
After some consideration, and a lunch time cocktail, I have concluded that those were not bodyguards with Tyler but baby sitters with an attitude. I’d be pissed off too if my life’s acheivement was working a job to keep someone from stomping the crap out of a petulant sixty two year old teenage nuisance.
Ness and Huze are a good choice to teach him good manners in the motorcycle industry. Tyler has a lot to learn and a lot of people to convince he is a biker and even more that he can be a custom builder. Bad start for him. He is responsible for the behavior of his entourage. No excuse.
What is really dispicable is bikers plan all year long to spend their vacation$ @ the Chip. Part of their decision to stay at or come to the Chip was specifically to see Aerosmith. Performing at the Chip in front of 10’s of thousands demands an act be in ‘Olympic’ shape. That’s what folks pay for & deserve – consideration for consideration. In$tead, Tyler $howed up/f’d up, fell down & the show got cut short. No excuse.
Who says Tyler wants to be a Biker ! Who says He wants that Lifestyle.I have seen His home in Mass and the only item that he has that is Biker related is, the Bike that Rossmeyer gave him or Built for Him and the Plaques thanking Him for the work he has done on behalf of the “Toys for Tots” in South F. He was a marketing Tool that was introduced and exploited be Bruce. That is a little of His Introduction into Motorcycles.
bigalyts,
You ask the question, “Who says Tyler wants to be a Biker ! Who says He wants that Lifestyle.”
Seems like Tyler says it. http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/05/15/steven-tyler-and-dirico-motorcycles-to-attend-sturgis-bike-week/
Well what can i say, ???????
As he was trying to make it across the room the two thugs he had with him were yelling for the crowd to get out of the way.
Johm Lenon said it best………..
Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon youre gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin to do
Its up to you, yeah you
Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin at fools like me
Who in the hell dyou think you are
A super star
i saw Tyler on stage yakking about something outside the ML venue before the hall opened and he looked like the typical 61 year old heavily weighed down with jewelry 95 lb geezer rocker with his 20 yr old g/f in tow and the dude to me looked and sounded like a wack job…….as for the mob scene well typical iam bigger than god rock star mentality ……..payback is bitch and the the beatles said Instant karma is gonna get ……..to be honest it was REALLY nice to see Sturgis without all of our own media/tv builder darlings, like: Rooke Lane, James, Hotch, Mitchell or a cross armed, i dare you to come and buy something Ron Simms ect LOL i got to admit it was cool seeing Ron and his thugg crew cruising down Lazalle on their bikes 🙂
Nice to see the real builders still there like, Nasi, Cox, Trotta, Todd S, Jerry and Dave Covington and many others, rather than seeing the Hugh King builders.
As for the show I feel for Woody and Lon who did a great job out there all week and really didn’t need this BS or the weather!! The chip is still the best venue out there.
i recon these dudes haven’t seen a crowd that big in decades and Tyler probably looked out at it and went back and a took a double shot of the new RED BULL power shots and washed it down with some RED BULL COLA…….or was on the same stuff Jeremy Methfield was tested for in NASCAR ?
The guy who impressed me was Lorenzo Lamas at Jeff Clarks Burnout show down by the CC………..Lorenzo was gratuitous and polite and down to earth and offered to pay for a guys if he blew it out during the burn out comp……….. in the past when did you ever see the media darlings ever offer up a dime out of their pockets for any event?
Hey Roadside ,
Seems you missed a perfect tune up opportunity .
Seen any hail lately ?
Ray
Cyril,
You’re great!
Keep up the great Blog!
I hear he was worried michael jackson was going to come and beat the crap out of him and take his drugs back ! Hey f %$# er try the IV that jackson did , puts you to sleep real good …
That’s all Hype, bullshit, Tyler a Biker, or living the Biker lifestyle. He just learned how to ride 3 years ago, that’s it ! What do you think he is talking about right now ?? It aien’t Bikes ! Guys like you Eat, Sleep and Design and come up with idea’s when you are taking the early morning Crap! He Blows where ever the winds are ! Get back to the 12 Step mentality, Steve it worked for you long before Cycles.! I know Steve, the water is not 103 in the Jacuzzi !
I am not excusing anything Tyler did, but I remember him being in a bad motorcycle accident in the 70’s. He was hospitalized for a long time. I think he ripped off part of his heel on one of his feet.
I know it doesn’t make him a biker. If you find my memory is wrong, please let me know.
Why did everyone just part like the Red Sea for his group? I keep reading about him being a poser, sounds like he may have been in good company if a room fulla “real” bikers couldn’t deal with his ass-holiness coming down the aisle like a jerk. If there wasn’t a beat-down right there when needed why get brave on the keyboards later? I’m not a big guy, but i sure woulda made like Ghandi and simply refused to move. Been knocked down before and it’ll happen again.
Woody: Good point. However, out of respect for Michael Lichter everyone was on their best behavior with the aforementioned exceptions. In other situations and circumstances such bully tactics would not be tolerated by most of those in the room that night.
I met him before the event and then at the event. I saw nothing like what you discribed but I will say that when some people are seen the first time, they are mis-interpeted. I have many times been thought to be high of wasteed when dooing some of my anticts of dressed outside the norm as I do. I have been clean and sober for 21 years in Sept. yet people will argue still to this day that when they met me I was crazy stoned or drunk.
As for him falling off the stage, The sound had gone completly off and the show was over till they fixed it. Steven tryed to keep it going by going out and dancing. He could have just given up and walked off the stage till who ever was responsible fixed the problem.
i have seen aerosmith in concert…back in ’82 or so.
tyler was so wasted, he coldn’t remember the words…..or was i so wasted, i couldn’t hear them?hm……………mmmm
Hey Ray, where were you in Sturgis? Sure was hoping to see you and spend some time chasing chicks with you!!! Hey Woody, Walt Lumpkin is right the only reason some people didn’t get a reality check was out of respect for Michael Lichter, and I can assure you that some of these guys that post on this site are just as badass in person as they are on here…Roadside Marty
Hey Marty i agree what you said aboit respect for ML
i know the guys i was with could have easily dropped those guys with Tyler like 2 turds into a toilet……they just let it go and thought why create a scene with some A-Holes!
Michael Lichter and Ron of the Buffalo Chip put on an excellent evenings event and by no means is there any disrespect from the Tyler incident upon them. It was that persons sole actions where the issue lies. We are gentleman and gentle women who represnt our industry positively. Great evening Michael and a special thankyou to Woody for creating Michaels new cool Sturgis building and home.
Roadside ,
While Sturgis was happening I was busy in San Jose locating a set of pistons that were being replaced after 80,000 trouble free miles on a 124 inch motor .
See Ya next year or sooner .
Fired my hot rod Sat . last week , rode to the coast for a few cool break in miles , 199 round trip . Haulin ass to the Bikerner Intergalactic Headquarters in Wilmington , Ca. in the morning . With a possible run over to Wendover, Utah Thursday for the last day or two of Speed Week .
Ride safe and keep a tune-up handy , ya just never know .
Ray
Rogue you are a treasured member of the motorcycle industry, the press and Sturgis. Rather than focusing on Tylers antics, (which I did not see happen) I wish you would have reported on all the link minded individuals who donated time, money and resources, providing motorcycles, artwork and memorbilia in support of Michael Lichter’s 9th annual Motorcycles as Art Exhibition. There will never be another world-class collection like this assembled in Sturgis again and I would have trusted you to apperciate and report on that more than anyone.
On a more positive note, Mike Greenwald you are not a representative of the Buffalo Chip and are not authorized to collect information or give opinions on our behalf in cyberspace or on the planet earth for that matter. Thanks, take it deep and have a nice day.
Thanks Lon.
Never indicated or implied that I was part of your operation.
Glad that you are clear on that.
I shared a conversation between you or your representatives and myself.
I quoted the message exactly.
Guess you will need to read other articles by Rogue to get the rest of the story as told by him.
One of your acts had a frontman that lost it and behaved like a fool. So what. What’s your side of the story on how you condone or disapprove of it?
Bean’re, you must be clean and sober for 21 years to remember the details of my wallet when we met again back stage. Very Impressive I must say.
I spent a large chunk of the day on monday riding around with Steven and his entourage, we got separated from the rest of the pack on the legends ride. I was fortunate enough to get some good riding in for a change which was nice, but every time would pull in for gas or water, all hell would break loose. It was insane, whenever people saw him they would turn into raving lunatics. The body guards were cordial and Steven did not turn down 1 person for a photo, and there were many. I asked his friends if he got sick of everyone pulling at him. They answered he never refuses anyone.
When we stopped at rushmore I noticed he was limping badly, I found out that he recently had a complicated foot surgery. Amazing that he was moving as well as he was during the concert, and I am not at all surprised that he lost his balance. The entire time before the concert backstage with the Aerosmith camp, I could not find a single beer, I had to go out front to find any spirits at all. Just before the concert started, I was invited to go in to Steven’s dressing room to wish him luck, he was working out with weights drinking different concoctions of vitamin waters. When he finally went on stage he seemed to be on top of his game, coordinating with the team fluidly to support a concert of this size.
I unfortunately could not attend Mike’s show because of yet another wicked storm up in Deadwood. I can only say I came away with nothing but respect in my dealings with Steven and the whole group. I can also say that If I walked into rooms and people acted like I had witnessed earlier in the week, I would want a security detail available as well.
I see, Walt, thanks for another point of view
Lon
I will be writing many things about Sturgis and the events there.
I have submitted a article on Michael Lichters 9th Annual Motorcycle As Art Exhibit to Bikernet and I expect that everyone will enjoy it.
The exhibit was very well done and I am happy I was invited. I also suggested that others attend any future exhibits.
I would like to note that Michael, his staff and everyone involved with the Buffalo Chip did a excellent job with everything that went on at the Chip.
Hopefully no one has said differently or thought that I was.
Steven Tyler was out of hand in the incident I mentioned and that is on him and No One Else.
I believe the comments of others who were there clearly state that.
I do enjoy being at the Buffalo Chip and did have a very good time at all the activities I was able to attend there and will continue to suggest people consider it in future visits to Sturgis.
Rogue
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Why does anybody give a fuck about a 60 yo hasbeen???
Steven tyler is not an A__H— somebody is just jealous for sure
He is a great person and agood Father
hope who ever said that feel s good of themselves–I think they are an A H
Hope they get this message