Comments on: Used Motorcycles Online Scams http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/ World's Number One Source For Custom Motorcycle News Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:35:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Used Motorcycles Online Scams at Cyril Huze Blog « Aw Blog http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111820 Used Motorcycles Online Scams at Cyril Huze Blog « Aw Blog Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:48:19 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111820 [...] more: Used Motorcycles Online Scams at Cyril Huze Blog Tags: bike, country, fine-except, list-fake, price, your-bike Share this [...] [...] more: Used Motorcycles Online Scams at Cyril Huze Blog Tags: bike, country, fine-except, list-fake, price, your-bike Share this [...]

]]> By: Big Ben http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111405 Big Ben Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:13:07 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111405 Hey Doc, The 107" is a 1987 Softail = no problems there! As for the 2007's - compliance plating! A few extra hoops to jump through but no biggie if you plan ahead and go in eyes wide open.......... Hey Doc,

The 107″ is a 1987 Softail = no problems there!

As for the 2007′s – compliance plating!

A few extra hoops to jump through but no biggie if you plan ahead and go in eyes wide open……….

]]> By: mikydwarf http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111291 mikydwarf Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:31:46 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111291 Wecome to the real world at least thats how it was put to me after i got scamed on a bike i bought and now with it sitting in a shed not running and a few thou to fix it and disability only going so far to have a roof and food buyer be ware is mildly putting it. thanks E BAY.. Wecome to the real world at least thats how it was put to me after i got scamed on a bike i bought and now with it sitting in a shed not running and a few thou to fix it and disability only going so far to have a roof and food buyer be ware is mildly putting it. thanks E BAY..

]]> By: 1 JOKER http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111288 1 JOKER Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:27:17 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111288 I THIUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ROSMEYER OF DAYTONA I THIUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ROSMEYER OF DAYTONA

]]> By: JP@MyEvilTwinChoppers http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111287 JP@MyEvilTwinChoppers Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:53:17 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111287 Doc That was my question! I've sold 3 bikes in Australia and they all had to be 1988 or older or custom builds Guys Alot of these scams are easy to see through, no brainers. The one that kills me is all the people that tell me they paid the $500 deposit to a guy on Ebay with 10 pieces of feedback and poof he disappeared. PayPal will reimburse you if you go through them, but check and see what the seller has purchased and how long they have been a member. 10 tooth brushes = 10 pieces of positive feedback. Avoid scams, buy all your stuff local from the little guys ! ;) JP Doc

That was my question! I’ve sold 3 bikes in Australia and they all had to be 1988 or older or custom builds

Guys

Alot of these scams are easy to see through, no brainers. The one that kills me is all the people that tell me they paid the $500 deposit to a guy on Ebay with 10 pieces of feedback and poof he disappeared. PayPal will reimburse you if you go through them, but check and see what the seller has purchased and how long they have been a member. 10 tooth brushes = 10 pieces of positive feedback.

Avoid scams, buy all your stuff local from the little guys ! ;)

JP

]]> By: Doc Robinson http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111275 Doc Robinson Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:27:55 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111275 Hey Big Ben What are you going to do with a bike that you cannot legally register in Australia? Hey Big Ben
What are you going to do with a bike that you cannot legally register in Australia?

]]> By: The Supreme Team http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111274 The Supreme Team Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:10:51 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111274 If you have any questions about those emails...do yourself the favor and call the credit card company. Anybody from out of country, I just ask them for the CC info up front before I even consider playing cat and mouse over the email. Good luck! If you have any questions about those emails…do yourself the favor and call the credit card company. Anybody from out of country, I just ask them for the CC info up front before I even consider playing cat and mouse over the email. Good luck!

]]> By: The Supreme Team http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111271 The Supreme Team Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:52:57 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111271 And don't forget all the clowns in Singapore, Sweden, Switzerland wanting to buy 5 of this and 8 of that via email...all the emails look the same, so be aware. They come from different locations, but ask the same questions the first time around. If you say yes, they will come back with an order for large numbers of whatever. I'm incluiding a cut and paste of one of my fiascos...thankfully I caught onto him the first time as soon as he asked for 5 of something...NOBODY's buying 5 of anything in this economy...LOL. Take care and keep a sharp eye out! Subject: inquires Dear Mr/Mrs.Sales, How are you today. Introducing my name is Sammuel chan. I am domiciled and have a small shop in Singapore. Actually I'm looking for some products to the needs of my shop. Previously I would like to ask you: - Do you accept payment by credit card? - Could you ship my order quickly to Singapore? Let me know your answer before i let you know what product that i need. I will waiting your information and thank you for your attention. Regards, Sammuel, Singapore ...TO WHICH I REPLIED-yes, we can ship there and yes we accept credit cards.... Dear Bill R How are you today,Thanks for your reply. Ok,I will buy from you : - SUPREME LEGENDS RETRO BELT DRIVE Polish (Complete/Ready to use) Qty: 2 Sets - Supreme Legends Hammerhead Mid-Control C-200-30S-180-P Qty : 8 Sets Please let me know about the total cost include express shipping to Singapore. I will payment by credit caerd visa. I will send my credit card details for payment after that. Please inform me sooner. Regards, Sannuel,Singapore And don’t forget all the clowns in Singapore, Sweden, Switzerland wanting to buy 5 of this and 8 of that via email…all the emails look the same, so be aware. They come from different locations, but ask the same questions the first time around. If you say yes, they will come back with an order for large numbers of whatever. I’m incluiding a cut and paste of one of my fiascos…thankfully I caught onto him the first time as soon as he asked for 5 of something…NOBODY’s buying 5 of anything in this economy…LOL.
Take care and keep a sharp eye out!

Subject: inquires

Dear Mr/Mrs.Sales,

How are you today.
Introducing my name is Sammuel chan.
I am domiciled and have a small shop in Singapore.
Actually I’m looking for some products to the needs of my shop.
Previously I would like to ask you:

– Do you accept payment by credit card?
– Could you ship my order quickly to Singapore?

Let me know your answer before i let you know what product that i need.
I will waiting your information and thank you for your attention.

Regards,
Sammuel, Singapore

…TO WHICH I REPLIED-yes, we can ship there and yes we accept credit cards….

Dear Bill R

How are you today,Thanks for your reply.
Ok,I will buy from you :

- SUPREME LEGENDS RETRO BELT DRIVE Polish (Complete/Ready to use) Qty: 2 Sets
- Supreme Legends Hammerhead Mid-Control C-200-30S-180-P Qty : 8 Sets

Please let me know about the total cost include express shipping to Singapore.
I will payment by credit caerd visa.
I will send my credit card details for payment after that.
Please inform me sooner.

Regards,
Sannuel,Singapore

]]> By: Big Ben http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111229 Big Ben Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:30:17 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111229 All good advice! I am based in Australia and just received a nice 107" softail bought on EBAY from a guy in Kansas. It is possible to have these deals go right but I sent and received a lot of emails before commiting my money. If you are computer savvy (I am!) you do what I do. As soon as I had the sellers name and the supposed location (Wichita) I got onto Google and started searching. Took about 30 mins to obtain his address, telephone number, which matched what he had emailed me, and to look up the address on Google earth. Nice house with same driveway and front porch as in the EBAY pics. Few more emails and a scan of the title paper emailed to me and I was set. Small deposit to show good faith via paypal and remainder via wire transfer and the bike was mine. Not all International buyers arre fraudsters and not all sellers are scam artists - the skill is in recognising the good from the bad. Now anyone got a couple of 2007 screaming eagle VRods for sale? All good advice!

I am based in Australia and just received a nice 107″ softail bought on EBAY from a guy in Kansas.

It is possible to have these deals go right but I sent and received a lot of emails before commiting my money.

If you are computer savvy (I am!) you do what I do. As soon as I had the sellers name and the supposed location (Wichita) I got onto Google and started searching. Took about 30 mins to obtain his address, telephone number, which matched what he had emailed me, and to look up the address on Google earth. Nice house with same driveway and front porch as in the EBAY pics. Few more emails and a scan of the title paper emailed to me and I was set.

Small deposit to show good faith via paypal and remainder via wire transfer and the bike was mine.

Not all International buyers arre fraudsters and not all sellers are scam artists – the skill is in recognising the good from the bad.

Now anyone got a couple of 2007 screaming eagle VRods for sale?

]]> By: thealaskan http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111220 thealaskan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:42:15 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111220 Incidentally, forgot to mention............. great article Cyril. I thought it was going to be just another sterile do's and don't list, but you bring up some up some newer and easily overlooked points to beware. Incidentally, forgot to mention…………. great article Cyril. I thought it was going to be just another sterile do’s and don’t list, but you bring up some up some newer and easily overlooked points to beware.

]]> By: thealaskan http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111218 thealaskan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:37:32 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111218 Indeed... thanks for the report EGBlue, but by all means disclose the names of anyone involved in a gone bad transaction... not just fraudsters ! Indeed… thanks for the report EGBlue, but by all means disclose the names of anyone involved in a gone bad transaction… not just fraudsters !

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111216 Jeremy Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:11:33 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111216 Electra Glide In Blue. I think all readers should know the name of this builder. Thank you to publish it. Electra Glide In Blue. I think all readers should know the name of this builder. Thank you to publish it.

]]> By: Electra Glide In Blue http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111213 Electra Glide In Blue Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:33:26 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111213 I got ripped on a ebay deal for a custom build frame. I checked the guy out, an up and coming builder with a good reputation. He had several builds featured in some biker mags, good feedback on the bay. After waiting six months for the build that I was told would take 4 to 6 weeks I noticed his reputation was going by the wayside. He finally fessed up and said he couldn't complete the deal or give a refund so I disputed the charge through my CC company. Lucky my CCard refunded all my money back to my account. I had saved all the emails between the seller and myself. It's important to log all communication especially the expected date of delivery. I got ripped on a ebay deal for a custom build frame. I checked the guy out, an up and coming builder with a good reputation. He had several builds featured in some biker mags, good feedback on the bay. After waiting six months for the build that I was told would take 4 to 6 weeks I noticed his reputation was going by the wayside. He finally fessed up and said he couldn’t complete the deal or give a refund so I disputed the charge through my CC company. Lucky my CCard refunded all my money back to my account. I had saved all the emails between the seller and myself. It’s important to log all communication especially the expected date of delivery.

]]> By: Dave Blevins http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111188 Dave Blevins Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:21:09 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111188 I have been an Ebay seller since 2002 and here are some tips for online buyers... 1. When you make a purchase on Ebay, don't pay that instant, look over your invoice and see if the seller has posted a phone number, call the number to check its validity. If that number works, you can get to a person to resolve an issue (or have authorities find them if necessary). 2. Check the seller's feedback rating before you buy, this is information left by previous buyers about their purchase and can not be faked by the seller. 3. Check to see if the seller is VERIFIED. Verification is a process sellers go through to provide Ebay an actual address, and it involves the verification of a seller's bank account... while the bank account information is not viewable by the purchaser, it does allow legal recourse through Ebay and local law enforcement. If the seller is not VERIFIED, DO NOT BUY. 4. Ask questions, if you get no response or an ambigious one, DO NOT BUY. 5. If it is a large amount of money and the seller won't allow you pick up in person, insisting it can only be shipped, RED FLAG. It may be a legit deal but lets face it, better to be safe and move on to another deal (there's always another deal). 6. If the purchase is for a motorcycle, arrange for payment when picked up, I have sold bikes and shipped them for customers but I don't like doing it. It costs buyers a lot and takes a long time to get your bike, these days it is a buyer's market so buy closer to home and go pick it up... it is easier on the mind and the wallet. I have been an Ebay seller since 2002 and here are some tips for online buyers…
1. When you make a purchase on Ebay, don’t pay that instant, look over your invoice and see if the seller has posted a phone number, call the number to check its validity. If that number works, you can get to a person to resolve an issue (or have authorities find them if necessary).
2. Check the seller’s feedback rating before you buy, this is information left by previous buyers about their purchase and can not be faked by the seller.
3. Check to see if the seller is VERIFIED. Verification is a process sellers go through to provide Ebay an actual address, and it involves the verification of a seller’s bank account… while the bank account information is not viewable by the purchaser, it does allow legal recourse through Ebay and local law enforcement. If the seller is not VERIFIED, DO NOT BUY.
4. Ask questions, if you get no response or an ambigious one, DO NOT BUY.
5. If it is a large amount of money and the seller won’t allow you pick up in person, insisting it can only be shipped, RED FLAG. It may be a legit deal but lets face it, better to be safe and move on to another deal (there’s always another deal).
6. If the purchase is for a motorcycle, arrange for payment when picked up, I have sold bikes and shipped them for customers but I don’t like doing it. It costs buyers a lot and takes a long time to get your bike, these days it is a buyer’s market so buy closer to home and go pick it up… it is easier on the mind and the wallet.

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]]> By: Jeremy http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111174 Jeremy Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:45:17 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111174 Online classified ads websites starve for the listing fee and don't care if the seller or buyer is a crook. They don't want scams to be disclosed (eBay has always strongly opposed disclosing the number of frauds and complaints they receive). There are so many bikes for sale everywhere that I don't see why to bother and risk online fraud. I have several friends who were scammed on parts sold online. Transaction paid on PayPal, but seller send a box with equivalent part weight inside, not the part. When the buyer complains, seller pretends that the part was inside and that the buyer took it and lies. No way to prove anything. Online classified ads websites starve for the listing fee and don’t care if the seller or buyer is a crook. They don’t want scams to be disclosed (eBay has always strongly opposed disclosing the number of frauds and complaints they receive). There are so many bikes for sale everywhere that I don’t see why to bother and risk online fraud. I have several friends who were scammed on parts sold online. Transaction paid on PayPal, but seller send a box with equivalent part weight inside, not the part. When the buyer complains, seller pretends that the part was inside and that the buyer took it and lies. No way to prove anything.

]]> By: Boss Hawg http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2009/12/06/used-motorcycles-online-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-111172 Boss Hawg Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:28:24 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=26646#comment-111172 Cyril...I had this exact same issue on Motorcycle.com. I sent the editors an email advising them of the fraudulent advertisement 2 months age....Guess what...NO RESPONSE! The 2007 Road King Screaming Eagle is still there listed today! Here is the link http://www.motorcycle.com/classifieds/harley-davidson/2007-harley-davidson-road-glide-MC09251001D51.html for your viewers. This one is a very typical example to avoid. Bike is in Canada (you bet not) and now the seller has moved to London and said he took the bike there with him. We communicated through my personal email address that I do not give out readily (Guess what...I am now being spammed with you name it...Viagara, Cialis, etc....). Seller was reluctant to send me the VIN...When (assumed he), he did I asked for the address and told him I would have a licensed surveyor come take a look at the bike. Well guess what...no more communications from the seller. And of course since Motorcycle.com does not respond and continues to publish (as of the time of this writing which is about 2 months after I emailed the editors) the classified speaks volumes to me that Motorcycle.com does not care either...just looking for traffic to their site and it shows that they condone fraudulent advertisements on their website, too! Buyer beware...unless you need the little blue pill... Boss Hawg Cyril…I had this exact same issue on Motorcycle.com. I sent the editors an email advising them of the fraudulent advertisement 2 months age….Guess what…NO RESPONSE!

The 2007 Road King Screaming Eagle is still there listed today! Here is the link http://www.motorcycle.com/classifieds/harley-davidson/2007-harley-davidson-road-glide-MC09251001D51.html for your viewers.

This one is a very typical example to avoid. Bike is in Canada (you bet not) and now the seller has moved to London and said he took the bike there with him. We communicated through my personal email address that I do not give out readily (Guess what…I am now being spammed with you name it…Viagara, Cialis, etc….). Seller was reluctant to send me the VIN…When (assumed he), he did I asked for the address and told him I would have a licensed surveyor come take a look at the bike. Well guess what…no more communications from the seller.

And of course since Motorcycle.com does not respond and continues to publish (as of the time of this writing which is about 2 months after I emailed the editors) the classified speaks volumes to me that Motorcycle.com does not care either…just looking for traffic to their site and it shows that they condone fraudulent advertisements on their website, too!

Buyer beware…unless you need the little blue pill…

Boss Hawg

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