people that dont like buells are just plain idiots.

Newtonian and yessir you 2 are perfect examples if the idiots out there… f*ck off and go get a jap bike or one of those shit ass Hyosungs.. they might be more suited to your riding style… hahahah

truth is you can buy a tractor that out performs every HD in handling, speed, reliability, etc…. i could go on for pages.

i own 4 Buells now and will never go back to any Jap crap ever again… there is nothing else on the market that can handle corners as well as a buell. even a KTM duke 690 is no match for a Buell XB12S or XB12STT…

i really do hope Buell finds its feet and manages to start up production again.

Harley Davidson are even bigger idiots for selling off MV Agusta another world class bike.

HD can kiss my ass.

“We chose not to sell Buell, and [to] simply end production, simply because of the interdependencies that exist between Buell and Harley-Davidson.

That is the decision we made, and that is not a reversible decision.”

Guess that means it’s over.

Well thanks, Bikermarc, for your invaluable 2-cents worth !

Yet another example of how the web allows jerks to become genuine wankers when they get behind a keyboard.

When Julius has sold some bikes you can start making suggestions like these, instead of believing and regurgitating all the crap and spin that we see being manipulated on the web.

Nobody wanted to buy Buells and they were only ever crow-barred into show rooms under irresistible pressure from HD, who were too embarassed to admit that they were barking up the wrong tree.

Julius will never put a cent into such awful motorcycles, you read it here first.

Suggest your meeting with the “Indian” Motorcycle Corporation folks and their capital provider, Stellican Limited out of London.(If you haven’t already.)

If there’s a way to bring Buell back, (and improve it) these guys will know how to do it.

Very sharp private equity pros from all I’ve seen and heard.

Contact Stephen Julius, the key founding partner of Stellican.You can also connect with David Wright, one of the other partners.

Lots of private equity here and real brand management know-how.

Good luck.

Bikermarc

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buells are cult bikes and most appealing to guys who already love black and orange.

i own one and frankly it’s a POS. crappy electrical systems, twitchy suspension, and the hottest motor on the market- the XL based ones.

sure it might not be great for the industry right now, but this should have happened long ago to Buell. there was an arrogance from the Buell camp that is undeserved for a third rate ‘sportbike’.

When you’re shopping yourself, you pretty up your showroom window as much as possible- smaller labor force, chop off some sort-term warts…..

I would think Harley explored the idea of selling Buell outright, and found it wasn’t feasable- so why should anyone else stick any money into it?

In some regions i read where their selling them at 50% off, some dealers have 30 buels sitting in their inventory.

They should hire the MAD MAN as i’d love to see some Buel Lazarus & Lazarus ST3 Models outthere in the near future.

I have really no idea what kind of agreement HD have with Buell, but by just shutting down Buell, HD can just walk away from it’s contracts and commitments to Buell. Hence cut down immediate financial responsibilities and limit short term losses.

As to HD supplying parts to Buell so therefore it can’t separate the two? Rubbish, All they need to do is put a ticket price on all the HD parts Buell currently uses and Buell would be quite easy to run as an independent company. For example many auto companies have joint development agreements for engines and chassis’, also many just buy engines from competitors when they don’t have a suitable in house engine and projected sales numbers would financially prohibit development of such. There is no reason Buell and HD cannot do the same. HD would make additional money from the sale of those parts to Buell.

If they had the same factory and staff, I could understand that it would be hard to separate the two, but they don’t.

Well, dont’ know about their water cooled sports bike, but as much as i like air cooled twin sports bikes, that market for Buell is a niche market at best and will never scale to that of the Big Twins unless they can pull of a “Ducatti miracle.” Buell simply doesn’t have the following of BMW-boxers.

Sorry, as i see it, this sounds about as doable as Obama’s new small business initiative.
Giving money to any business where the economy has killed off it’s customer base is like subsidizing a commodity which has no market.

JMHO
-nicker-

I think they already.

I guess I don’t understand why other vendors would have any incentive to help save Buell????? It isn’t like the Buell bikes were flying off the shelves at dealerships ….. if that were the case they would still be part of Harley. Vendors have been tagged so many times by all the other companies that have gone the way of the Dinosaurs. I just don’t see anyone willing to stick what little neck they have remaining out for anyone right now.

Erik has had to have made millions of dollars during his relationship with HD …. if he believes so strongly in his product I am sure he will invest his own money …. I would! Whatever the case I wish him well.

Just my 2 cents worth.

With all the experience and information learned and taken from Buell and of MV Agusta, the smart money would indeed be on Harley producing a sports bike two or three years down the line.

Unfortunately, as an industry heavyweight and very dear friend succinctly put it, “…and Harley will f**k it up.”

Tough time for VC financing tho; Also, I wonder if Buell might not have to encrouch upon Harley cruiser turf in order to sell some bikes- be interesting to see if a Buell bobber or something would spook Harley…

If he wants to hassle with it, I hope Buell manages to put a package together.

I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

But I don’t.