Comments on: Ace Motorcycle Rare Drawings from 1919 Found in Dumpster! http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/ World's Number One Source For Custom Motorcycle News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:13:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nicker http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91846 Nicker Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:13:22 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91846 Well, no one takes care of a free puppy, regardless of the pedigree. But charge em $250 bucks for a mongrel and it'll get the attention it needs. So, the good news is that if someone does pay $30k or $40k for em the they won't end up as kindling, like some of the Dead Sea Scrolls. And when the surviving Scrolls were finally put into preservation the translations started showing up on the Internet, even though the "owners" (the controlling intellectual elite) didn't want them disseminated. -nicker- Well, no one takes care of a free puppy, regardless of the pedigree.
But charge em $250 bucks for a mongrel and it’ll get the attention it needs.

So, the good news is that if someone does pay $30k or $40k for em the they won’t end up as kindling, like some of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

And when the surviving Scrolls were finally put into preservation the translations started showing up on the Internet, even though the “owners” (the controlling intellectual elite) didn’t want them disseminated.

-nicker-

]]> By: dragon http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91826 dragon Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:10:19 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91826 ok give them up i want a set or least a chance to look them over that my friends is true history ok give them up i want a set or least a chance to look them over that my friends is true history

]]> By: Lyle http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91811 Lyle Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:36:32 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91811 Auction is over on ebay with the resever not met at t little over 38K. I noticed the auction didn't give the buyer the exclusive rights to the prints. Has the owner (who's had them for 4 years) made copies of them? Auction is over on ebay with the resever not met at t little over 38K. I noticed the auction didn’t give the buyer the exclusive rights to the prints. Has the owner (who’s had them for 4 years) made copies of them?

]]> By: paul http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91763 paul Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:43:33 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91763 its listed on ebay right now item # 160306254824 - $38,000 and rising but it hasn't met its reserve its listed on ebay right now item # 160306254824 – $38,000 and rising but it hasn’t met its reserve

]]> By: Nicker http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91759 Nicker Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:06:53 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91759 Unfortunately many historic records like this don't even get this much attention. Most simply end up in the ball-mill because some manager is looking at cost savings. Even storage costs money, let alone scanning, filming and/or managing a repository. The best one can hope for is that some one person can recognize the value of historic documentation and save what they can for posterity. A retired guy from Pratt & Whitney gave me a copy of an assembly drawing of one of the original aircraft radial engine from WWII. He said most of the collection had simply been thrown away. As an individual he wasn't able to save very much. Imagine what would NOT have happened had some of Napoleon's men simply discarded the Rosetta Stone as just another chunk of old broken pottery. Value is a matter of perception, imagination, and propriety. Too bad isn't it. -nicker- Unfortunately many historic records like this don’t even get this much attention. Most simply end up in the ball-mill because some manager is looking at cost savings. Even storage costs money, let alone scanning, filming and/or managing a repository.

The best one can hope for is that some one person can recognize the value of historic documentation and save what they can for posterity.

A retired guy from Pratt & Whitney gave me a copy of an assembly drawing of one of the original aircraft radial engine from WWII. He said most of the collection had simply been thrown away. As an individual he wasn’t able to save very much.

Imagine what would NOT have happened had some of Napoleon’s men simply discarded the Rosetta Stone as just another chunk of old broken pottery.

Value is a matter of perception, imagination, and propriety.
Too bad isn’t it.

-nicker-

]]> By: James (Kiwi) http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91758 James (Kiwi) Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:49:04 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91758 Yes a large format book would be amazing, but it may struggle to get published as not that many people would appreciate how great it is. The normal book buying motorcyclists usualy like glossy pic's.You only have to look at what gets published in large numbers to see. I collect motorcycle books and I have bought some real crap... My next purchase is going to be Flat Out,the Rollie Free story it sounds Fantastic and also part of the Indian story.Truly an amazing gentleman and a great help to Burt . If they do not publish a book why could they not sell a disc of the drawings then you could have them printed and bound yourself. Summer here, stinking hot! and I am out for another ride. James Yes a large format book would be amazing, but it may struggle to get published as not that many people would appreciate how great it is.

The normal book buying motorcyclists usualy like glossy pic’s.You only have to look at what gets published in large numbers to see.
I collect motorcycle books and I have bought some real crap…

My next purchase is going to be Flat Out,the Rollie Free story it sounds Fantastic and also part of the Indian story.Truly an amazing gentleman and a great help to Burt .

If they do not publish a book why could they not sell a disc of the drawings then you could have them printed and bound yourself.

Summer here, stinking hot! and I am out for another ride.

James

]]> By: raycwheeler http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91748 raycwheeler Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:34:10 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91748 Coffee table book gets my vote . Make it a large please . What a find . Ray Coffee table book gets my vote .
Make it a large please .
What a find .

Ray

]]> By: choppedirwin http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91746 choppedirwin Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:51:53 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91746 I think they better carbon date this. Hard to believe this never made it to the Indian Museum. And in what warehouse was it found - Gilroy? I think they better carbon date this. Hard to believe this never made it to the Indian Museum. And in what warehouse was it found – Gilroy?

]]> By: Dave Mann http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91740 Dave Mann Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:15:48 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91740 If he wanted to see all of these preserved intact where the public could see them, he would have donated them to the AMA museum. If he wanted to see all of these preserved intact where the public could see them, he would have donated them to the AMA museum.

]]> By: steveb http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91738 steveb Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:31:05 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91738 what a great coffee table book this would make... killer story & i'd love to see the drawings what a great coffee table book this would make…
killer story & i’d love to see the drawings

]]> By: Mike Greenwald http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91737 Mike Greenwald Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:49:52 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91737 I am willing to bet that they are going to tear this collection apart and sell it off by the piece. I would prefer that they copy it and publish it as a complete collection. The historic significance will be lost again once these are separated. I am willing to bet that they are going to tear this collection apart and sell it off by the piece. I would prefer that they copy it and publish it as a complete collection. The historic significance will be lost again once these are separated.

]]> By: Lyle http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/12/28/ace-motorcycle-rare-drawings-from-1919-found-in-dumpster/comment-page-1/#comment-91733 Lyle Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:17:31 +0000 http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/?p=5016#comment-91733 Man, That's a real find! I have some old blueprints from Indian and Crocker but nothing on the original linen or vellum. I've fond some nice things in dumpster but this takes it to a whole new level. I wonder what 'warehouse" they were sitting at and who was doing the throwing away? Man, That’s a real find! I have some old blueprints from Indian and Crocker but nothing on the original linen or vellum. I’ve fond some nice things in dumpster but this takes it to a whole new level. I wonder what ‘warehouse” they were sitting at and who was doing the throwing away?

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