I think we need to raise some money for a flight to North Korea for good old Zip.

You keep supporting then Dems Hoyt…….

On 9/11 we were attacked by cowards who could not face us or take responsibility for the attack b/c of fear of reprisal.

You keep stating that the Iraq war was unjust, so let me ask you, where were you (politically not physically) after 9/11 happened?
Let me guess, sit around and do nothing b/c they don’t have an Air Force, right?
Or, we don’t have proof who did it, so we better not do anything, right? Let’s go ahead and do nothing and become like Israelis who live in fear of going to a market place b/c of suicide bombers.
Let’s go ahead and reduce our military and intelligence so we can become over run by radical extremism. I know Hoyt, your Obama is going to protect you right?

Quoting Hoyt, “De-regulation in the financial sector and corporate greed (among other factors) are hurting us from within.” You are right here, and your Obama is at the top of the list. Remember my first post? Obama was 2nd on the list receiving money from Fannie and Freddie. Your party voted against regulations republicans proposed on these companies with regard to their lending practices. Now, these CEO’s are Obamas Financial Advisors. Pretty damaging fact in my book pal.

If it is in fact true that Palin does not ride, my bad. A close friend and a Alaskan developer told me that both Sarah and Todd owned Harleys. You have to admit she did look good in that photo…and at least she wasn’t sitting on a Vespa! So I retract that statement and say She is a lifelong card carrying member of the NRA. You seem to know alot about both Obama and Biden, are they members of the NRA?

Hoyt, you missed my point. I was just saying if what Obama did and who he associated with way back when does not matter today, then why does it matter so much to you, what McCain may or may not have done way back when, today???? I tell you what, I’ll give you 3 to 1. You cancel out the whole Keating “5″ with McCain and I’ll cancel out Rev Wright, Ayers and ACORN with Obama. Deal? Now lets move on.

Do you think it is possible that Obama came up with the Stop Fraud Act to cover his ass? He planned on running for President and really needed to show that he was doing something….

The Stop Fraud Act only addressed a portion of what has caused this current mess. Predatory lending practices are just a piece of the puzzle. It’s a fact that Obama spent a great deal of energy to get the Mortgage Qualification Standards lowered. He should of, along with anyone that was pushing for the standards to be lowered, been educating these lower income families and first time home buyers on the Predators that were waiting to screw them out of their hard earned money. Remember, no one held a gun to these buyers heads and made them sign the papers. Everyone in this Country needs to be responsible for there own actions! What I’m saying is we all need to take a test to get our drivers license..so why did so many people walk into the single largest purchase of their life without any knowledge of how it all works??? If the Dems cared so much about these people, why didn’t they do something about this way back during the Clinton Adm? Who’s best interest did it serve? I know Dodd did OK. And Barney Frank…his Gay lover sure benifited…..

Government oversight on Government run agencies such as Freddy & Fannie is needed. Government oversight on the private sector should be very very very limited. There is a huge difference so please do not lump McCains views on them into the same catagory.

“Obama is a heavy smoker himself and hits the juice also”. LIE. He was a light smoker and stopped 1 1/2 y ears ago. He doesn’t drink. at all. Never did.

Why Obama would not do 2 terms? Because of age, it’s more probable than McCain

You don’t sound very smart.

We have not forgotten.

Consider this staggering irony:

Al Queda attacked the Pentagon without an air force !

repeat: An “army” of terrorists attacked the HQ of the strongest military in the world on its own soil without an air force!

They found other ways….and cheap!

The Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld invasion did not find other ways.

Outsmarting the bastards with might, money, and brains is the only way to fight this perpetual battle.

Furthermore, consider financial dangers to our security:

$10 billion/month in an Iraq Invasion is hurting the US from within.
De-regulation in the financial sector and corporate greed (among other factors) are hurting us from within.

Teddy Roosevelt believed the USA would never be destroyed by a foreign enemy but he warned that the Bill of Rights & our Constitution would be subverted by “malefactors of great wealth”.

Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War stated that he “…had the south in front of him, and the bankers behind him. For my country, I fear the bankers more.”

Very pertinent to this day.

This does not suggest Obama will be (or Lincoln & Roosevelt were) weak on national security in a military sense.

STOP FRAUD Act would protect homeowners against fraudulent and predatory lending practices, help insulate housing market

WASHINGTON, DC — On the heels of reports that the housing market experienced its worst sales-month in 18 years and foreclosures are up 47% compared to last year, Senators Barack Obama (D-IL) and Dick Durbin (D-IL) today reintroduced the STOP FRAUD Act, legislation that combats mortgage fraud and abuse. In less than five years, there has been a 137 percent increase in the number of cases of mortgage fraud and abuse being investigated by the FBI.

“Mortgage fraud and abuse are costing thousands of Americans their hard-earned life savings and their dream of homeownership,” said Senator Obama. “As the number of foreclosures skyrocket and the housing market becomes more vulnerable, we must establish stiff penalties to deter fraud and protect consumers against abusive lending practices.”

“Mortgage fraud is a growing problem across the country,” said Senator Durbin. “Too many people in my home state of Illinois have been victims of abusive, misleading, and confusing lending practices. It is time that legislators step forward with a federal definition of mortgage fraud. The STOP FRAUD Act not only authorizes strict penalties to those who violate this definition but also empowers consumers with the tools they need to make informed decisions.”

The STOP FRAUD Act, which is aimed at stopping mortgage transactions that promote fraud, risk, abuse and underdevelopment, will provide the first federal definition of mortgage fraud and authorize stiff criminal penalties against fraudsters. STOP FRAUD requires a wide range of mortgage professionals to report suspected fraudulent activity, and gives these same professionals safe harbor from liability when they report suspicious incidents. It also authorizes several grant programs to help state and local law enforcement fight fraud, provide the mortgage industry with updates on fraud trends, and further support the Departments of Treasury, Justice and Housing and Urban Development’s fraud-fighting efforts.

At a time when many homeowners are concerned about losing their home to foreclosure, and policymakers are worried about fraudulent, deceptive, and confusing lending practices that are roiling communities across the country, STOP FRAUD provides $25 million for housing counseling. The Department of Housing and Urban Development will contract with public or private organization to provide information, advice, counseling, and technical assistance to tenants, homeowners, and other consumers with respect to mortgage fraud and other activities that are likely to increase the risk of foreclosure.

The Act also protects the legal rights of borrowers with risky, subprime loans. The greatest growth in the mortgage lending market is in subprime loans and some have estimated that more than 2 million homeowners with subprime mortgages are at risk of losing their homes. If a borrower receives a subprime mortgage with any one of several high-risk characteristics, the Act protects the rights of borrowers to challenge lending practices in foreclosure proceedings. The high-risk characteristics targeted by this Act include loans for which the borrower does not have the ability to repay at the maximum rate of interest, loans whose true long-term costs are not clearly disclosed to the borrower, stated-income and no-documentation loans, and loans with unreasonable prepayment penalties.

From Reuters

WASHINGTON – Illinois Senator Barack Obama introduced legislation Wednesday that would set a national standard for mortgage fraud and outline penalties for fraudsters.

In a statement, the Illinois Democrat and presidential hopeful said the legislation was needed as the housing market is shaken by failed mortgages among subprime borrowers with damaged credit.

“As the number of foreclosures skyrockets and the housing market becomes more vulnerable, we must establish stiff penalties to deter fraud and protect consumers against abusive lending practices,” Obama said.

Obama introduced a version of the same bill in the last Congress in February 2006 but it made no headway in the Republican-controlled legislature.

The new legislation, co-sponsored by fellow Illinois Democrat Sen. Richard Durbin, would target anyone who uses false information to secure a property or sell a mortgage product.

It would require brokers, attorneys, lenders and other agents to report suspected fraud to the Secretary of the Treasury. Another feature would offer $25 million in mortgage fraud counseling to prospective and current homebuyers.

Are you Brandon’s daddy?

“Chummy” – McCain was the one being flown around with his family by Keating’s private jet.

Rhoades writes, “Hoyt, if you are going to live in the World of “Guilty by Association….”

I wrote above there is NO guilt by association. Read it again.

When Keating 5 comes up in a question for McCain, what is he going to do? Weakly reply “well, my friends, there were 4 democrats.”

Aah, good strategy, maverick.

After seeing his career on the hook due to crossing the “regulatory line” 18 years ago, McCain states just 6 months ago, “….our financial market approach should include encouraging increased capital in FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS by REMOVING REGULATORY ACCOUNTING…”

http://keatingeconomics.com/

Just read all the comments. Don’t have much time to write but all what you put in Obama Column is wrong or false. I even laughed when you stated that Palin rides a Harley. She doesn’t have a motorcycle endorsement. Just had her picture taken front of a Harley with a group of bikers in Alaska. I really think Obama is going to be our next President. Time for a big change.

Legal Immigrant.

Brandon is right about Obama having introduced legislation against mortgage fraud. It was more than 1 year ago. Learn before you write with an arrogant tone..

Negatives in each candidates columns.

McCain.

Keating. If we are going to live in the World of “Guilty by Association”, than this has to be a negative for McCain. Keating was a family friend of Cindy McCains family (Hensley ’s – who by the way own the Budweiser distributor in AZ…which should be a PLUS in McCains column!!!) No doubt about it, Keating was a crook and a total Jackass.

Immigration Policy. I think his view sucks and I live in AZ. I cannot understand why he reached accross party lines and tried to get a amnesty bill approved along with Ted “Drunken Murderer” Kenedy.

Uh that’s pretty much it.

OBAMA.

Ayers. Hoyt, if you are going to live in the World of “Guilty by Association”, than this has to be a negative in Obama’s Column. Ayers is an admitted terrorist! I don’t care if it was last year or 30 years ago. He does not like this Great Country and pollutes the minds of College students with his Socialist Views. Let’s just say Ayers cancels out Keating….fair?

Rev. Wright. “Guilty By Association” We all know Rev. Wright is a RACIST and how many years did Obama attend his Church? Never once did he hear Rev. Wright’s hate speaches???

ACORN. A very radical, very left wing organization that no Business or Politician wants on there bad side! They will hire “community organizers” to picket outside with large inflatable RATS to “Bully” there position. Obama as a “Community Organizer” was hired by ACORN to train there staff. ACORN – please Google it and read about it. It has done nothing but bad. “Guilty By Association”

One of the Most Liberal Senators if not the most Liberal Senator in Congress. This does not show he has any desire to be Bipartisan

Wants to increase Government. Unless you work for the Government, This is not good!!!!

Wants to increase Taxes! However you want to spin this, he is for increasing Taxes. Do you honestly think that if Obama gets into office that he will keep his promise not to raise taxes on the “middle class” The definition of “middle class” will somehow change and become so complicated that a new Government Agency will have to be formed. Anyone who is for raising taxes will raise taxes anywhere they can! Current Tax payers or what I like to call “Responsible People” no matter what “class” they are in will see an increase in taxes. It has always been and will always be the Democrats policy to take from the “Responsible” and give to the “Irresponsible”

Free Health Care for everyone. Wait who is going to pay for this? And do we really want the Government running the Health Care System? Have you been to the DMV lately? Imagine that as your Doctors office… We already have “Free” Health Care in I think all states. Here in AZ it is called ACCESS. I, as a AZ taxpayer pay a portion of it through increased taxes!!!

Timeline for a pull out in IRAQ. When the actual people on the fround in IRAQ feel it is time to get out then we will get out. Some jackass in Washington should not make that decision…PERIOD!

Wants to increase our Foreign Spending. In one breath he bags on the Republicans for spending soo much money in IRAQ & AFGANISTAN to rebuild their countries and in the next breath wants to hand out more money to other Nations???

No executive experience. Community Organizer does not count. Do you think any Fortune 500 Company would hire Obama for a CEO position based on his qualifications? And you want him to lead this Nation???

Did not serve in the Military.

His “Financial Advisors” all had their hands in the current economic situation.

I may be mistaken, but I have not seen any “Biker’s For Obama” stickers!!!!!!

Joe Biden! At least McCain picked Palin! Not only is she HOT!!! but she rides a HARLEY!!!!!!

I could go on and on and I’m sure HOYT, BRANDON, J. MASSEY would like to add some negatives to McCains column.

The moral of my story is Obama has no business being the next President of this Great Nation. Not because he is Half Black, Half White, Half Muslim, Half Whatever, Democrat or Liberal. He is just plain wrong to be the next President. PERIOD!

If you would, Hoyt, Brandon, J Massey and any other Obama supporter on this blog, please tell me what you do for a living and what the Bush Administration the last 8 years has done to you personally that makes you hate it sooooo bad. I really would like to know your story and why you think Obama is the better choice.

Back to work….because I have to be “Responsible” and pay all my taxes.

… “Who received the most direct money from Charles Keating? John McCain.” … Wrong: Alan Cranston received the most money. Actually only McCain & Glenn were shown NOT to have received money from Keating. Read the report not just the bullshit Obama puts out.

….”Who, among the 5, was considered a social friend of Keating? John McCain.” ….. That was never shown to be accurate during the investigation. All five Senators were “chummy” with Keating. Just as Obama is “chummy” with some of the underworld and terrorist folks.

….”Who, among the 5, ran for office after the fraud was exposed? John Glenn and John McCain” Yes, and they won because they were proven not to have conspired to help Keating.

Gar Out