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	<title>Comments on: Myrtle Beach City Council Passes 15 ordinances To Limit Bikers</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is foolish to judge a whole group becasue of a few rogues.   haven&#039;t we learned this lesson before.

Bike Week is still on for 2010.

The Town of Atlantic beach supports us.

Long Live Black Bike Week.

http://www.blackbikeweeks.com/2010/01/black-bike-week-2010-dates/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is foolish to judge a whole group becasue of a few rogues.   haven&#8217;t we learned this lesson before.</p>
<p>Bike Week is still on for 2010.</p>
<p>The Town of Atlantic beach supports us.</p>
<p>Long Live Black Bike Week.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blackbikeweeks.com/2010/01/black-bike-week-2010-dates/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackbikeweeks.com/2010/01/black-bike-week-2010-dates/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a biker, but I don&#039;t want to be part of an outfit that goes into somebody&#039;s city and act like a wild person. I wish my friends would have fun, respect others and show folks that we bikers are plain old dudes like that enjoy riding with the wind in our face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a biker, but I don&#8217;t want to be part of an outfit that goes into somebody&#8217;s city and act like a wild person. I wish my friends would have fun, respect others and show folks that we bikers are plain old dudes like that enjoy riding with the wind in our face.</p>
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		<title>By: BLACK BIKER</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLACK BIKER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO THE BLACK BIKERS... Myrtle Beach DOES NOT, AND NEVER HAS held black bike week. THE TOWN OF ATLANTIC BEACH DOES! DO NOT spend A DIME in Myrtle Beach. The  (BLACK) town of Atlantic Beach welcomes US with open arms, and the laws there ARE NOT like Myrtle Beach&#039;s laws which restrict you from even breathing hard. SO IN 2010, BIKE WEEK (LIKE 2009) WILL BE HELD IN ATLANTIC BEACH! To the vendors, DO NOT make your T-shirts to read ANYTHING about Myrtle Beach. Make is read ATLANTIC BEACH BIKE WEEK 2010.. WE LOOK FOWARD TO WELCOMING YOU BACK! To the Myrtle Beach residents, business owners, police, and city council you don&#039;t have to worry about black people with your racist asses because I, and my riders ARE spreading the word about your NEW laws. I will do EVERYTHING IN MY POWER to see you not make ONE DAMN THIN DIME! WE WILL SPEND OUR MONEY IN ATLANTIC BEACH WHERE IT IS WANTED, WITH OUR BROTHERS, AND SISTERS.. This is rediculous. You run the bikers away, but I remember that you idiots actually around 1997 LET THE KU KLUX KLAN MARCH DOWN OCEAN BOULEVARD BY THE PAVILLION!!!!!! YES PEOPLE, THIS WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, WITH TOURISTS WATCHING! Myrtle Beach has its priorities backwards! ALL RACES, BOYCOTT MYRTLE BEACH!!! SPEND YOUR MONEY ELSEWHERE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO THE BLACK BIKERS&#8230; Myrtle Beach DOES NOT, AND NEVER HAS held black bike week. THE TOWN OF ATLANTIC BEACH DOES! DO NOT spend A DIME in Myrtle Beach. The  (BLACK) town of Atlantic Beach welcomes US with open arms, and the laws there ARE NOT like Myrtle Beach&#8217;s laws which restrict you from even breathing hard. SO IN 2010, BIKE WEEK (LIKE 2009) WILL BE HELD IN ATLANTIC BEACH! To the vendors, DO NOT make your T-shirts to read ANYTHING about Myrtle Beach. Make is read ATLANTIC BEACH BIKE WEEK 2010.. WE LOOK FOWARD TO WELCOMING YOU BACK! To the Myrtle Beach residents, business owners, police, and city council you don&#8217;t have to worry about black people with your racist asses because I, and my riders ARE spreading the word about your NEW laws. I will do EVERYTHING IN MY POWER to see you not make ONE DAMN THIN DIME! WE WILL SPEND OUR MONEY IN ATLANTIC BEACH WHERE IT IS WANTED, WITH OUR BROTHERS, AND SISTERS.. This is rediculous. You run the bikers away, but I remember that you idiots actually around 1997 LET THE KU KLUX KLAN MARCH DOWN OCEAN BOULEVARD BY THE PAVILLION!!!!!! YES PEOPLE, THIS WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, WITH TOURISTS WATCHING! Myrtle Beach has its priorities backwards! ALL RACES, BOYCOTT MYRTLE BEACH!!! SPEND YOUR MONEY ELSEWHERE!</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>myrtle beach can kiss my ssa so can tri state recovery they will tow your vehicle agaist proper procedures from city ordinance code 23-133 and the police wont do anything about it i guess they can get away with highway robbery in mb i am from ga and will never set foot in mb again as for stupid new laws they have passed i wont have to worry about those because i wont go back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>myrtle beach can kiss my ssa so can tri state recovery they will tow your vehicle agaist proper procedures from city ordinance code 23-133 and the police wont do anything about it i guess they can get away with highway robbery in mb i am from ga and will never set foot in mb again as for stupid new laws they have passed i wont have to worry about those because i wont go back</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My money spends other places just as well as Myrtle beach. I don&#039;t need to go anywhere I am not welcome. It&#039;s on the list with Ocean city MD. and the constant speed traps the MD state police run that week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My money spends other places just as well as Myrtle beach. I don&#8217;t need to go anywhere I am not welcome. It&#8217;s on the list with Ocean city MD. and the constant speed traps the MD state police run that week.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>golfers are worst than any biker ever thought about being. they just run in smaller packs!!  f#@$ mb as I ride away on my Dyna.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>golfers are worst than any biker ever thought about being. they just run in smaller packs!!  f#@$ mb as I ride away on my Dyna&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MB Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myrtle Beach city council is terrible they all should resign today! In a city that thrives on tourist traffic income to survive and prosper they continue to do things to run these people off. millions lost do to bike rallies (its 2 weeks people for millions of dollars in tax income). Plus the millions lost to local businesses not to mention many of these people come another time of the year and you treat them like this do you think they will come back -- NO. 
MB cuts millions of revenue, and wants to raise taxes to make it up. However with less traffic you&#039;ll see less workers and spending. Whos gonna make up the millions your taxes are reaching the limits of towns with two or three times the main stream income base. Put MB on auto-pilot no leadership is better than what we have. I&#039;m already trying to go to NMB to shop just to start making it a habit , cause by time they are done we&#039;ll have 10% sales tax.
I applaud NMB and Atlantic beach for welcoming these groups and hope they step it up and finally step out of Myrtle Beach cities shadows. If Myrtle Beach continues on this path they will drive themselves out of the tourist business in the long run. 
GO NMB!!!

By the way -- John Rhodes ran his personal business in the ground and had to close it down!! Now he thinks he can make good business decisions for a whole city! Maybe time has passed you by john and your thoughts are outdated, please step down before you allow our city to ruin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myrtle Beach city council is terrible they all should resign today! In a city that thrives on tourist traffic income to survive and prosper they continue to do things to run these people off. millions lost do to bike rallies (its 2 weeks people for millions of dollars in tax income). Plus the millions lost to local businesses not to mention many of these people come another time of the year and you treat them like this do you think they will come back &#8212; NO.<br />
MB cuts millions of revenue, and wants to raise taxes to make it up. However with less traffic you&#8217;ll see less workers and spending. Whos gonna make up the millions your taxes are reaching the limits of towns with two or three times the main stream income base. Put MB on auto-pilot no leadership is better than what we have. I&#8217;m already trying to go to NMB to shop just to start making it a habit , cause by time they are done we&#8217;ll have 10% sales tax.<br />
I applaud NMB and Atlantic beach for welcoming these groups and hope they step it up and finally step out of Myrtle Beach cities shadows. If Myrtle Beach continues on this path they will drive themselves out of the tourist business in the long run.<br />
GO NMB!!!</p>
<p>By the way &#8212; John Rhodes ran his personal business in the ground and had to close it down!! Now he thinks he can make good business decisions for a whole city! Maybe time has passed you by john and your thoughts are outdated, please step down before you allow our city to ruin!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Rhodes,

  My family vacationed at Myrtle Beach during spring break, and on the last night of vacation I received a noise ordinance ticket on Ocean Blvd, not for loud exhaust or anything of this nature but for my stereo in my SUV. These so called noise ordinance laws are way to vague and open to to much interpretation by these inept city police. I was unaware a stereo system was a danger to public safety, health, or welfare... or whatever other BS terms you all use. The ticket stated I was in violation of ordinance code section 14-62. While building my case against them for court next week I have found out that this ordinance section has to deal with all the ways you are trying to keep bikers out of MB and not for any stereo systems.

  Furthermore you need to define the allowed decibel limitations(and have it posted for tourists like myself) for incorporated areas of the city because the only ones I have found have to do with motorcycle mufflers and unincorporated areas of the city. Because the last time I attended school, decibels were what they measured noise with and not some city cops ear. MB apparently does not want any outsiders visiting anymore, regardless if you own a bike or not, so I hope you are not looking to forward to my next visit, because of this I doubt very seriously if I will spend any more of my NC dollars in your state.

Danny James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Rhodes,</p>
<p>  My family vacationed at Myrtle Beach during spring break, and on the last night of vacation I received a noise ordinance ticket on Ocean Blvd, not for loud exhaust or anything of this nature but for my stereo in my SUV. These so called noise ordinance laws are way to vague and open to to much interpretation by these inept city police. I was unaware a stereo system was a danger to public safety, health, or welfare&#8230; or whatever other BS terms you all use. The ticket stated I was in violation of ordinance code section 14-62. While building my case against them for court next week I have found out that this ordinance section has to deal with all the ways you are trying to keep bikers out of MB and not for any stereo systems.</p>
<p>  Furthermore you need to define the allowed decibel limitations(and have it posted for tourists like myself) for incorporated areas of the city because the only ones I have found have to do with motorcycle mufflers and unincorporated areas of the city. Because the last time I attended school, decibels were what they measured noise with and not some city cops ear. MB apparently does not want any outsiders visiting anymore, regardless if you own a bike or not, so I hope you are not looking to forward to my next visit, because of this I doubt very seriously if I will spend any more of my NC dollars in your state.</p>
<p>Danny James</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Greenwald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Greenwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the &quot;official version&quot;

Dear Visitors,
Myrtle Beach is no longer the location for two long-running motorcycle events. After many years, our residents grew weary of three weeks of noise and traffic congestion each May, and they asked City Council to end the events. As a result, the Harley-Davidson Dealers Association Spring Rally and the Atlantic Beach Memorial Day Bikefest will not be held in Myrtle Beach.
This was a difficult decision. Myrtle Beach welcomes visitors year-round, but the giant motorcycle rallies simply grew too large. Our staff, residents and businesses strained to keep up with these huge single-focus events. It may surprise you, but our economy is much healthier with a fully diversified visitor base, instead of a concentration on one or two extremely large events.
Please know that Myrtle Beach is not anti-biker or anti-motorcycle. We want folks to come on the vehicle of their choice and enjoy all of the things Myrtle Beach has to offer. We are ending the motorcycle-related rallies because they grew too big and lasted too long. The huge rallies even kept visitors away from Myrtle Beach, and that&#039;s not good.
For everyone&#039;s safety and welfare, City Council has added a few new rules and regulations. We believe these new laws will make Myrtle Beach a safer and more friendly destination. For example, with your safety in mind, we now require that all motorcycle riders and passengers wear a helmet and eye protection. We also have a 1:00 to 6:00 a.m. curfew for everyone under 18. These and other rule changes are explained on this web site.
Thank you for understanding. As you know, Myrtle Beach is a great place to visit, and we welcome you at any time. I look forward to your next visit and am confident that you will have a great time in Myrtle Beach!
Sincerely,

John Rhodes
Mayor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the &#8220;official version&#8221;</p>
<p>Dear Visitors,<br />
Myrtle Beach is no longer the location for two long-running motorcycle events. After many years, our residents grew weary of three weeks of noise and traffic congestion each May, and they asked City Council to end the events. As a result, the Harley-Davidson Dealers Association Spring Rally and the Atlantic Beach Memorial Day Bikefest will not be held in Myrtle Beach.<br />
This was a difficult decision. Myrtle Beach welcomes visitors year-round, but the giant motorcycle rallies simply grew too large. Our staff, residents and businesses strained to keep up with these huge single-focus events. It may surprise you, but our economy is much healthier with a fully diversified visitor base, instead of a concentration on one or two extremely large events.<br />
Please know that Myrtle Beach is not anti-biker or anti-motorcycle. We want folks to come on the vehicle of their choice and enjoy all of the things Myrtle Beach has to offer. We are ending the motorcycle-related rallies because they grew too big and lasted too long. The huge rallies even kept visitors away from Myrtle Beach, and that&#8217;s not good.<br />
For everyone&#8217;s safety and welfare, City Council has added a few new rules and regulations. We believe these new laws will make Myrtle Beach a safer and more friendly destination. For example, with your safety in mind, we now require that all motorcycle riders and passengers wear a helmet and eye protection. We also have a 1:00 to 6:00 a.m. curfew for everyone under 18. These and other rule changes are explained on this web site.<br />
Thank you for understanding. As you know, Myrtle Beach is a great place to visit, and we welcome you at any time. I look forward to your next visit and am confident that you will have a great time in Myrtle Beach!<br />
Sincerely,</p>
<p>John Rhodes<br />
Mayor</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very interested to see these dates when these resteraunts have the &quot;Dine and Dash&quot; problems, all of the loitering issues and all of the other &quot;ISSUES&quot; the City of Myrtle Beach is having. These dates will show exactly who are the people causing these instances. For the 25 years I have been going to MBBW I have never witnessed this crap that the council members are using as excuses. Everyone knows where these are originating. BBW!!!!!
 Someone needs to have the balls to stand up and tell the BBW they are not welcome. Who cares about the NAACP, they are already BOYCOTTING South Carolina because of the flag. So who gives a S--- if they come or not. They don&#039;t spend anywhere&#039;s near the money that the Original Bike Week Bikers spend and cause 10 times the damage. Take a close look at the dates and the &quot;Truth Will Set You Free!!!!!!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very interested to see these dates when these resteraunts have the &#8220;Dine and Dash&#8221; problems, all of the loitering issues and all of the other &#8220;ISSUES&#8221; the City of Myrtle Beach is having. These dates will show exactly who are the people causing these instances. For the 25 years I have been going to MBBW I have never witnessed this crap that the council members are using as excuses. Everyone knows where these are originating. BBW!!!!!<br />
 Someone needs to have the balls to stand up and tell the BBW they are not welcome. Who cares about the NAACP, they are already BOYCOTTING South Carolina because of the flag. So who gives a S&#8212; if they come or not. They don&#8217;t spend anywhere&#8217;s near the money that the Original Bike Week Bikers spend and cause 10 times the damage. Take a close look at the dates and the &#8220;Truth Will Set You Free!!!!!!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Kernel</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Kernel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;Bikers Go Home&quot;.

You want us out, then you can have it your way.  We just put our MB property up for sale.  We used to go to MB about 8 times a year.  I am a native of SC.  I&#039;m 54 years old, and have vacationed in MB many times, starting when I was a child.  I attended my first MB Bike Rally in 1980.   No more.  After our property sells, I will never step foot inside the city limits again.  Don&#039;t worry, I won&#039;t let the screen door hit me on the way out.  Your once-fair city is now a disgrace and the laughing stock of SC.

By the way, I don&#039;t drink, I always wear a helmet, I don&#039;t have loud pipes on my bikes, and I don&#039;t like you.

Tom in Upstate SC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;Bikers Go Home&#8221;.</p>
<p>You want us out, then you can have it your way.  We just put our MB property up for sale.  We used to go to MB about 8 times a year.  I am a native of SC.  I&#8217;m 54 years old, and have vacationed in MB many times, starting when I was a child.  I attended my first MB Bike Rally in 1980.   No more.  After our property sells, I will never step foot inside the city limits again.  Don&#8217;t worry, I won&#8217;t let the screen door hit me on the way out.  Your once-fair city is now a disgrace and the laughing stock of SC.</p>
<p>By the way, I don&#8217;t drink, I always wear a helmet, I don&#8217;t have loud pipes on my bikes, and I don&#8217;t like you.</p>
<p>Tom in Upstate SC</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned MB Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned MB Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Debbie,

What irks me most of all when it comes to the biker community is that they simply refuse to see the obvious when it comes to the negative aspects of massive gatherings of bikers.  You and your friends may obey the speed limit, not weave in an out of traffic recklessly, and may not run stop signs and red lights, but during bike &quot;month&quot; in May (let&#039;s not kid ourselves, it goes on for 4 consecutive weekends in May), I constantly witness awful and reckless driving by bikers the entire time.  Driving is much, much, more dangerous during bike month than it is during a &quot;normal&quot; time of the year.  

I assure you, every time you see a biker pulled over in MB, it is because they were breaking traffic law and putting themselves and other innocent folks in danger.  And trust me, the MB cops give the locals plenty of tickets too.  My spouse and I have both received tickets in the last year, so don&#039;t be naive and sit there and act like the police are just &quot;out to get&quot; bikers.  There is a reason you see bikers pulled over on every corner: during bike month the bikers outnumber the locals 10 to 1, and many bikers are driving recklessly, so it stands to reason that you should see at least 10 bikes getting a ticket to every car, using basic logic.

The bottom line during bike month many bikers are extremely RECKLESS on our roads, whether you want to admit it or not.  If you don&#039;t see this when you come here, then you are blind to the obvious. If everyone obeyed traffic law like I&#039;m sure you do, then it might be different, but they simply don&#039;t.  I&#039;ve seen bikes speeding down Kings Highway upwards of 90mph in short burst (speed limit is 45 mph).  I see them weaving in and out of lanes as that blow past cars going the speed limit.  It is awful and I detest it.  

Sincerely,

Kate in MB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Debbie,</p>
<p>What irks me most of all when it comes to the biker community is that they simply refuse to see the obvious when it comes to the negative aspects of massive gatherings of bikers.  You and your friends may obey the speed limit, not weave in an out of traffic recklessly, and may not run stop signs and red lights, but during bike &#8220;month&#8221; in May (let&#8217;s not kid ourselves, it goes on for 4 consecutive weekends in May), I constantly witness awful and reckless driving by bikers the entire time.  Driving is much, much, more dangerous during bike month than it is during a &#8220;normal&#8221; time of the year.  </p>
<p>I assure you, every time you see a biker pulled over in MB, it is because they were breaking traffic law and putting themselves and other innocent folks in danger.  And trust me, the MB cops give the locals plenty of tickets too.  My spouse and I have both received tickets in the last year, so don&#8217;t be naive and sit there and act like the police are just &#8220;out to get&#8221; bikers.  There is a reason you see bikers pulled over on every corner: during bike month the bikers outnumber the locals 10 to 1, and many bikers are driving recklessly, so it stands to reason that you should see at least 10 bikes getting a ticket to every car, using basic logic.</p>
<p>The bottom line during bike month many bikers are extremely RECKLESS on our roads, whether you want to admit it or not.  If you don&#8217;t see this when you come here, then you are blind to the obvious. If everyone obeyed traffic law like I&#8217;m sure you do, then it might be different, but they simply don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;ve seen bikes speeding down Kings Highway upwards of 90mph in short burst (speed limit is 45 mph).  I see them weaving in and out of lanes as that blow past cars going the speed limit.  It is awful and I detest it.  </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Kate in MB</p>
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		<title>By: debbie in wva</title>
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		<dc:creator>debbie in wva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has the city councel gone mad? we plan our vacations around bike weeks(spring and fall)
there are about 8-10 couples that come with us. some bring thier kids/parents. we(my family only) have spent on average 2,000-3,0000 each time. for hotels, food, shopping, venders and fuel.
you do the math!!!!!!!!! during the past two years we have noticed a difference, the police pull over bikers on every corner, and cars speed by without a glance given to them. our group is looking for a different place to RIDE FREE. i want to let the city councel know that our group comes down to enjoy the beach, and the rally, but know more. this is the worst case of control i have seem. to those who live there, beware when our money (the entire rally) leaves, so does your good life. they will have to raise your taxes to make up the difference. 


looking for new place

debbie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has the city councel gone mad? we plan our vacations around bike weeks(spring and fall)<br />
there are about 8-10 couples that come with us. some bring thier kids/parents. we(my family only) have spent on average 2,000-3,0000 each time. for hotels, food, shopping, venders and fuel.<br />
you do the math!!!!!!!!! during the past two years we have noticed a difference, the police pull over bikers on every corner, and cars speed by without a glance given to them. our group is looking for a different place to RIDE FREE. i want to let the city councel know that our group comes down to enjoy the beach, and the rally, but know more. this is the worst case of control i have seem. to those who live there, beware when our money (the entire rally) leaves, so does your good life. they will have to raise your taxes to make up the difference. </p>
<p>looking for new place</p>
<p>debbie</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nicklus</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-88266</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Nicklus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bikers Go Home,

Sure you are right .... not! 

If what you say is correct then why has Sturgis SD just celebrated their 68th annual bike week, Laconia, NH their 85th annual event, Daytona Bike Week their 67th annual event, Laughlin NV their 25th event etc. etc.? More and more cities around the country are bidding for our attention (and dollars) every day. We literally could be at an event every weekend of the year if we chose to do so. As a matter of fact out show truck just pulled out minutes ago to do an event here in Houston. So as I have said from the onset of the crap in Myrtle Beach, why waste our time and money on a bunch of crusty old bastards who don&#039;t want us? We will take our money and go elsewhere. Further, no matter what you say when the bikers leave so does the money, which does, whether you can admit it or not, will have a major impact on the local economy.

So in conclusion I wish you and your fellow “Crusty Old Bastards” a good life and I hope you enjoy watching your grass grow and the new Myrtle Beach fiscal income deficit you will soon enjoy. Hopefully you can get as many “families” driving their quiet SUV’s to visit Myrtle Beach during the former rally week time period…… not likely. Should that be the case, however, I am sure the Myrtle Beach, at the insistence of the Crusty Old Bastards Club, will come out with a new City Ordinance against children having fun and being overly noisy. SHHHHHHH lets listen to the grass grow!

Over &amp; Out,

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bikers Go Home,</p>
<p>Sure you are right &#8230;. not! </p>
<p>If what you say is correct then why has Sturgis SD just celebrated their 68th annual bike week, Laconia, NH their 85th annual event, Daytona Bike Week their 67th annual event, Laughlin NV their 25th event etc. etc.? More and more cities around the country are bidding for our attention (and dollars) every day. We literally could be at an event every weekend of the year if we chose to do so. As a matter of fact out show truck just pulled out minutes ago to do an event here in Houston. So as I have said from the onset of the crap in Myrtle Beach, why waste our time and money on a bunch of crusty old bastards who don&#8217;t want us? We will take our money and go elsewhere. Further, no matter what you say when the bikers leave so does the money, which does, whether you can admit it or not, will have a major impact on the local economy.</p>
<p>So in conclusion I wish you and your fellow “Crusty Old Bastards” a good life and I hope you enjoy watching your grass grow and the new Myrtle Beach fiscal income deficit you will soon enjoy. Hopefully you can get as many “families” driving their quiet SUV’s to visit Myrtle Beach during the former rally week time period…… not likely. Should that be the case, however, I am sure the Myrtle Beach, at the insistence of the Crusty Old Bastards Club, will come out with a new City Ordinance against children having fun and being overly noisy. SHHHHHHH lets listen to the grass grow!</p>
<p>Over &amp; Out,</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Bikers Go Home</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-88243</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikers Go Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jeff,

Real mature.  Your response it typical and is exactly why you are not wanted in Myrtle Beach, and probably most places you visit.  Perhaps if you actually respected the places you visit, the local folks would want you to come back.  But you and your ilk clearly you have no respect for the towns that host you, so don&#039;t act surprised to learn that locals don&#039;t want you around.  If the biker community respected the community, then we wouldn&#039;t be talking about the FIFTEEN &quot;anit-rally&quot; ordinances passed by MB, now would we? It is simple cause and effect: bikers have worn out their welcome, so the welcome mat is being removed.

Respect for the community is what we ask.  If you can&#039;t do that, then please go some place else.

P.S. If you think your loud tail pipe makes you cool, then you are about as cool as those idiots who put the big wing on the back of their Ford Escort.  It takes a real man to have a loud tail pipe.... puh lease.  I hope the MB Police go crazy enforcing the noise ordinances and tickets the utter hell out of bikers this weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jeff,</p>
<p>Real mature.  Your response it typical and is exactly why you are not wanted in Myrtle Beach, and probably most places you visit.  Perhaps if you actually respected the places you visit, the local folks would want you to come back.  But you and your ilk clearly you have no respect for the towns that host you, so don&#8217;t act surprised to learn that locals don&#8217;t want you around.  If the biker community respected the community, then we wouldn&#8217;t be talking about the FIFTEEN &#8220;anit-rally&#8221; ordinances passed by MB, now would we? It is simple cause and effect: bikers have worn out their welcome, so the welcome mat is being removed.</p>
<p>Respect for the community is what we ask.  If you can&#8217;t do that, then please go some place else.</p>
<p>P.S. If you think your loud tail pipe makes you cool, then you are about as cool as those idiots who put the big wing on the back of their Ford Escort.  It takes a real man to have a loud tail pipe&#8230;. puh lease.  I hope the MB Police go crazy enforcing the noise ordinances and tickets the utter hell out of bikers this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nicklus</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-88224</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Nicklus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bikers Go Home,

Suck my 180db tail pipe, numb nuts (please feel free to look that up if you don&#039;t know what it means).

Over &amp; Out,

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bikers Go Home,</p>
<p>Suck my 180db tail pipe, numb nuts (please feel free to look that up if you don&#8217;t know what it means).</p>
<p>Over &amp; Out,</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Bikers Go Home</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-88223</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikers Go Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of Myrtle Beach, seeing quotes like &quot;Time to move the rally to a nearby city....&quot; or &quot;The only good message to send to these people is for everybody not to show up&quot; is music to my ears.  That is precisely what we want.  

The problem that the &quot;biker community&quot; fails to recognize is that bike &quot;week&quot; has already become bike &quot;month&quot;, and the proliferation of custom bikes with &quot;anti-mufflers&quot; that amplify noise rather than muffle it means that the permanent residents of Myrtle Beach suffer for nearly a month out of every year (May rally plus Fall rally) with the horrible noise and other nuiscances that bikers bring with them.

Also, the tired refrain from the pro-rally crowd that residents shouldn&#039;t complain about the rallies because they live in a tourist town is bunk.  Bikers must realize that Myrtle Beach has been slowly transforming from an exclusive tourist town to a place where people are settling permanently, especially retirees.  The base of the Myrtle Beach economy is driven as much by permanent residents and owners of second homes as it is by tourism, and the bike rallies are a small part of that tourism.

Bikers seem to think that Myrtle Beach will dry up and disappear if they stop coming here.  Quite the contrary, the month of May still pales in comparison to the primary summer months in terms of business dollars, and the departure of the rallies will soon be replaced by other sources of more family friendly, noise friendly, debauchery free tourism.   And as for BBW, they don&#039;t spend hardly any money any way and the city loses millions on law enforcement each year during BBW, so go ridance to that as well.

The rash of anti bike rally sentiment in Myrtle Beach was not created randomly by the City Council, the City Counsel is simply reacting to years of resident complaints that have reached a crescendo recently, so they acted as their resident wanted them too.  They are an extention of the city&#039;s residents and reflect the majority of opinions in Myrtle Beach.  So bikers should open their eyes and recognize that the reasons for the the anti-biker sentiment have real causes, it hasn&#039;t just been created out of thin air.  The blame lies with the bikers themselves.  The rallies have brought with them increasing crime, noise, and debauchery (look it up if you don&#039;t know this word), and that is why the residents of MB are up in arms over this.  The catch phrase is &quot;enough is enough&quot;.  We&#039;ve put up with it for too long, and our patience has reached a breaking point.

If the rallies must continue, it would be refreshing for bikers to recognize the impact that they have on the communities that they travel to, and make a real effort to change that impact so that everyone could co-exist.  I shouldn&#039;t have to hear a motorcycle going from 0-60 in 3 seconds with a decibel level of 180db at 4:00am, for three weeks non-stop....

So please, go some place else for your rallies and get the heck out of Myrtle Beach and the Grand Strand completely.  We don&#039;t need Ya!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of Myrtle Beach, seeing quotes like &#8220;Time to move the rally to a nearby city&#8230;.&#8221; or &#8220;The only good message to send to these people is for everybody not to show up&#8221; is music to my ears.  That is precisely what we want.  </p>
<p>The problem that the &#8220;biker community&#8221; fails to recognize is that bike &#8220;week&#8221; has already become bike &#8220;month&#8221;, and the proliferation of custom bikes with &#8220;anti-mufflers&#8221; that amplify noise rather than muffle it means that the permanent residents of Myrtle Beach suffer for nearly a month out of every year (May rally plus Fall rally) with the horrible noise and other nuiscances that bikers bring with them.</p>
<p>Also, the tired refrain from the pro-rally crowd that residents shouldn&#8217;t complain about the rallies because they live in a tourist town is bunk.  Bikers must realize that Myrtle Beach has been slowly transforming from an exclusive tourist town to a place where people are settling permanently, especially retirees.  The base of the Myrtle Beach economy is driven as much by permanent residents and owners of second homes as it is by tourism, and the bike rallies are a small part of that tourism.</p>
<p>Bikers seem to think that Myrtle Beach will dry up and disappear if they stop coming here.  Quite the contrary, the month of May still pales in comparison to the primary summer months in terms of business dollars, and the departure of the rallies will soon be replaced by other sources of more family friendly, noise friendly, debauchery free tourism.   And as for BBW, they don&#8217;t spend hardly any money any way and the city loses millions on law enforcement each year during BBW, so go ridance to that as well.</p>
<p>The rash of anti bike rally sentiment in Myrtle Beach was not created randomly by the City Council, the City Counsel is simply reacting to years of resident complaints that have reached a crescendo recently, so they acted as their resident wanted them too.  They are an extention of the city&#8217;s residents and reflect the majority of opinions in Myrtle Beach.  So bikers should open their eyes and recognize that the reasons for the the anti-biker sentiment have real causes, it hasn&#8217;t just been created out of thin air.  The blame lies with the bikers themselves.  The rallies have brought with them increasing crime, noise, and debauchery (look it up if you don&#8217;t know this word), and that is why the residents of MB are up in arms over this.  The catch phrase is &#8220;enough is enough&#8221;.  We&#8217;ve put up with it for too long, and our patience has reached a breaking point.</p>
<p>If the rallies must continue, it would be refreshing for bikers to recognize the impact that they have on the communities that they travel to, and make a real effort to change that impact so that everyone could co-exist.  I shouldn&#8217;t have to hear a motorcycle going from 0-60 in 3 seconds with a decibel level of 180db at 4:00am, for three weeks non-stop&#8230;.</p>
<p>So please, go some place else for your rallies and get the heck out of Myrtle Beach and the Grand Strand completely.  We don&#8217;t need Ya!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicker</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-88179</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could there be a &quot;cause and effect&quot; scenario being plaid out here???
Behavior, like &quot;pipes&quot; can create all kind-a problems.

RE: 

* Adding city prosecution to county prosecutor power to prosecute those who walk out of restaurants without paying their tabs.

* A ban on the destructive use of landscaping areas that are established by zoning law.

*  A ban on the possession or consumption of liquor, beer or wine in parking lots abutting public rights of way.
 
* A ban on loitering and refusing to leave a private business or parking lot when requested or when there are conspicuous “no loitering” signs.

Ya think..........?????

-nicker-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could there be a &#8220;cause and effect&#8221; scenario being plaid out here???<br />
Behavior, like &#8220;pipes&#8221; can create all kind-a problems.</p>
<p>RE: </p>
<p>* Adding city prosecution to county prosecutor power to prosecute those who walk out of restaurants without paying their tabs.</p>
<p>* A ban on the destructive use of landscaping areas that are established by zoning law.</p>
<p>*  A ban on the possession or consumption of liquor, beer or wine in parking lots abutting public rights of way.</p>
<p>* A ban on loitering and refusing to leave a private business or parking lot when requested or when there are conspicuous “no loitering” signs.</p>
<p>Ya think&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.?????</p>
<p>-nicker-</p>
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		<title>By: hardlyable</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardlyable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been going to MB for some 12 to 15 yrs and to tell you the truth most of my time has been spent north or south of the city anyway. Like Marko said in the statment above &quot;the place looks deserted, like a ghost town&quot; It&#039;s true, the whole city looks vacant, closed down, entire shopping malls closed down. Other than a couple good resturants most of my time is spent driving through. None of my money is going to get spent there as should anybody elses the way the city is treating this. My thought is the city is biting off the hand thats feeding it, they should be doing more for the business&#039; to keep the &quot;tourism&quot; there rather than driving it away. All the bikers should unite and boycot MB and stay out of the cities limits (I&#039;m sorry to the local business&#039;) but we should all stand up to this nonsense. Lets not be pushed around and told what to do, where and when to do it, like I read above, it&#039;s still America (I think)  If their going to impose &quot;city ordinances&quot; don&#039;t hurt the business&#039;, there the ones people are coming to see, vist, spend money. Get it, SPEND MONEY the same money that keeps the city going. The economy is bad enough, it&#039;s tough for the small business man to make it and now being taxed to help the city come up with enough money to enforce the new ordinances. I&#039;m sorry but if the city should see fit to tax somone, tax just the people that do all the complaining, the same one&#039;s that probably voted you IDIOTS in office!!!!!!!! I&#039;m very concerned about the future of MB, it&#039;s headed in the wrong direction and fast. We need help, is there a lawyer in the house(HA HA HA) . Sombody stand up and fight (we all, stand up and fight) Bikers unite and come together as one, BE HEARD, BE LOUD, BE STRONG, CHOPPERS FOREVER, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been going to MB for some 12 to 15 yrs and to tell you the truth most of my time has been spent north or south of the city anyway. Like Marko said in the statment above &#8220;the place looks deserted, like a ghost town&#8221; It&#8217;s true, the whole city looks vacant, closed down, entire shopping malls closed down. Other than a couple good resturants most of my time is spent driving through. None of my money is going to get spent there as should anybody elses the way the city is treating this. My thought is the city is biting off the hand thats feeding it, they should be doing more for the business&#8217; to keep the &#8220;tourism&#8221; there rather than driving it away. All the bikers should unite and boycot MB and stay out of the cities limits (I&#8217;m sorry to the local business&#8217;) but we should all stand up to this nonsense. Lets not be pushed around and told what to do, where and when to do it, like I read above, it&#8217;s still America (I think)  If their going to impose &#8220;city ordinances&#8221; don&#8217;t hurt the business&#8217;, there the ones people are coming to see, vist, spend money. Get it, SPEND MONEY the same money that keeps the city going. The economy is bad enough, it&#8217;s tough for the small business man to make it and now being taxed to help the city come up with enough money to enforce the new ordinances. I&#8217;m sorry but if the city should see fit to tax somone, tax just the people that do all the complaining, the same one&#8217;s that probably voted you IDIOTS in office!!!!!!!! I&#8217;m very concerned about the future of MB, it&#8217;s headed in the wrong direction and fast. We need help, is there a lawyer in the house(HA HA HA) . Sombody stand up and fight (we all, stand up and fight) Bikers unite and come together as one, BE HEARD, BE LOUD, BE STRONG, CHOPPERS FOREVER, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: BIGMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIGMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting enough, I was just in MB last weekend with some friends and of course we brought our bikes.  I have been going to bike week for the last 10 or so yrs religiously (even flew in from alaska).  In my opinion, we should just go elsewhere.  Money spends everywhere.  Why even give them the satisfaction.  They will feel the economic impact immediately.  I do feel sorry for the businesses that do welcome bikers.  I will not go back to MB for bikeweek or a simple weekend again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting enough, I was just in MB last weekend with some friends and of course we brought our bikes.  I have been going to bike week for the last 10 or so yrs religiously (even flew in from alaska).  In my opinion, we should just go elsewhere.  Money spends everywhere.  Why even give them the satisfaction.  They will feel the economic impact immediately.  I do feel sorry for the businesses that do welcome bikers.  I will not go back to MB for bikeweek or a simple weekend again.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is what it is........Discrimination, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is what it is&#8230;&#8230;..Discrimination, period.</p>
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		<title>By: 98camaroz28</title>
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		<dc:creator>98camaroz28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bikers unite!  Stay away from Myrtle Beach!  Just stay on 17 bypass and go around.  Spend your money in Surfside, Murrell Inlet, and North Myrtle Beach! SBB, Beaver Bar and HB Spokes are a lot more fun than anything in MYB!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bikers unite!  Stay away from Myrtle Beach!  Just stay on 17 bypass and go around.  Spend your money in Surfside, Murrell Inlet, and North Myrtle Beach! SBB, Beaver Bar and HB Spokes are a lot more fun than anything in MYB!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Greenwald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Greenwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.cityofmyrtlebeach.com/agendas.html
Taken from City of Myrtle Beach meeting agenda, Tuesday September 23,
2008.
 
NOTE: 
2008-64: helmet/eyewear ordinance passed 5-1. All the other ordinances
passed 6-0. Councilman Chuck Martino was absent.
 
2008-68 : noise
 
2008-70 : the council voted to allow no more than two bikers per public
space.
 
The council had been planning to require all official security personnel
to be licensed and bonded. Councilmembers removed the bonding
requirement before passing the second and final draft of the ordinance.
[www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/breaking_news/story/605611.html ]
 
___________________________________
SECOND READINGS:
 
NOTE:  TITLES HAVE BEEN AMENDED ON ORDINANCES NOS. 2008-59 THROUGH
2008-69 SINCE 1ST READING TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MYRTLE BEACH.
 
2008-57      ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 10-22 OF DIVISION 1 OF ARTICLE
II OF CHAPTER 10 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MYRTLE BEACH
TO DEFINE AND DECLARE UNPERMITTED EVENTS AND RALLIES TO BE PUBLIC
NUISANCES; TO PROHIBIT THEIR MAINTENANCE AND TO SEEK FINANCIAL REDRESS
FROM THOSE ENTITIES THAT PROMOTE UNPERMITTED SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE CITY.
 
2008-58      ORDINANCE TO AMEND ARTICLE VI, OF CHAPTER 19, SECTIONS
19-127 TO INCLUDE EVENTS INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS WHICH IMPACT
THE PUBLIC; IN SECTION 19-128 TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER’S ERROR; AND IN
SECTION 19-156 TO SPECIFY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES FOR COST RECOVERY WHEN
THEY PROMOTE UNPERMITTED SPECIAL EVENTS THAT IMPACT THE CITY.
 
2008-59      ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE I, SECTION 14-1(e),
HOURS OF SALE RESTRICTED FOR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS WHICH ALLOW FOR
ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION OF BEER, ALE, PORTER AND/OR WINE; WITH
EXEMPTION, AND LOSS OF EXEMPTION IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY
OF MYRTLE BEACH. 
 
2008-59      ALTERNATE  ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE I,
SECTION 14-1(e), HOURS OF SALE RESTRICTED FOR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS
WHICH ALLOW FOR ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION OF BEER, ALE, PORTER AND/OR
WINE; WITH EXEMPTION, LOSS OF EXEMPTION AND APPEAL IN THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MYRTLE BEACH. 
 
2008-60      ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE I, SECTION 14-7
DEFRAUDING A RESTAURANT.
 
2008-61      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-220, AN ORDINANCE TO
PROHIBIT THE ENGAGEMENT IN RENTAL OF ACCOMMODATION TAX PROPERTY, OR
SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY, WITHOUT PROOF OF ADULT RESPONSIBILITY BY WAY
OF IDENTIFICATION PRESENTED AT CHECK IN; AND TO REQUIRE PARKING
STICKERS, HANGERS, CARDS OR OTHER IDENTIFYING RECORD FOR DISPLAY IN EACH
VEHICLE REGISTERED; AND TO REQUIRE SECURITY AND CONTROL OF PARKING
AREAS; THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.
 
2008-62      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-221, AN ORDINANCE TO
PROHIBIT THE POSSESSION OR CONSUMPTION OF LIQUOR, BEER, ALE, PORTER
AND/OR WINE IN THE PARKING LOTS ABUTTING CERTAIN PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY;
THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.
 
2008-63      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-222, AN ORDINANCE TO
PROHIBIT THE DESTRUCTIVE USE OF THE LANDSCAPING AREAS REQUIRED BY ZONING
LAW, AND TO PROHIBIT PUBLIC NUISANCE USES OF PARKING AREAS; THE
VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.
 
2008-64      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-223 THROUGH 14-227, AN
ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE SAFETY HELMETS AND PROTECTIVE EYEWEAR WHILE ON A
MOTORCYCLE; THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.
 
2008-65      IN CHAPTER 14 ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-228 THROUGH 14-231, AN
ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT THE PARKING OR STORAGE OF ANY BOATS AND BOAT
TRAILERS, SEMITRAILER, TRACTOR, TRAILER, OR OVERSIZED VEHICLES AS HEREIN
DEFINED ON PUBLIC STREETS AND CERTAIN PRIVATE LOTS; RESIDING IN ANY
PARKED OR STORED VEHICLE PROHIBITED; AND AUTHORIZATION FOR IMPOUNDMENT;
THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.
 
2008-66      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-232 THROUGH 14-235, AN
ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE SECURITY MEASURES AT CONVENIENCE BUSINESSES; THE
VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION. 
 
2008-67      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-236 THROUGH 14-239, AN
ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A JUVENILE CURFEW, THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN
ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.
 
2008-68      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-240, AN ORDINANCE TO
PROHIBIT THE OPERATIONS OF MOTOR VEHICLES THAT DO NOT HAVE REQUIRED EPA
LABELING COMPLIANCE OR THAT EXCEED ESTABLISHED SOUND LEVELS; TO PROHIBIT
THE OPERATION OF ANY MOTOR VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH ANY
EXHAUST MUFFLER APPROVED BY THIS CHAPTER; THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN
ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION; AND TO DECLARE VEHICLES IN VIOLATION TO BE A
PUBLIC NUISANCE, AND IMPOUND, TOW AND STORE SUCH VEHICLES UNTIL THE
VEHICLES CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE CITY LIMITS WITHOUT OPERATION IN
VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
 
2008-69      ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE V, SECTION 14-85, BY
ADDING (10) TO SECTION (B) PROHIBIT LOITERING WITH A HARMFUL PURPOSE OR
EFFECT BY REFUSING OR FAILING TO LEAVE A PRIVATE BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL
ESTABLISHMENT, OR PARKING LOT THAT IS POSTED WITH CONSPICUOUS “NO
LOITERING” SIGNS.
 
2008-70      ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 12, ARTICLE III, DIVISION 1,
SECTION 12-102, TO PROHIBIT MORE THAN ONE VEHICLE PER PARKING SPACE; AND
TO AMEND CHAPTER 12, ARTICLE III, DIVISION 1, SECTION 12-132 TO REPEAL
DEACTIVATION FOR MOTORCYCLE PARKING IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE
CITY OF MYRTLE BEACH.
 
2008-71      ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTIONS
BEGINNING 14-200, ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING SYSTEM AND INFRACTIONS.</description>
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Taken from City of Myrtle Beach meeting agenda, Tuesday September 23,<br />
2008.</p>
<p>NOTE:<br />
2008-64: helmet/eyewear ordinance passed 5-1. All the other ordinances<br />
passed 6-0. Councilman Chuck Martino was absent.</p>
<p>2008-68 : noise</p>
<p>2008-70 : the council voted to allow no more than two bikers per public<br />
space.</p>
<p>The council had been planning to require all official security personnel<br />
to be licensed and bonded. Councilmembers removed the bonding<br />
requirement before passing the second and final draft of the ordinance.<br />
[www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/breaking_news/story/605611.html ]</p>
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SECOND READINGS:</p>
<p>NOTE:  TITLES HAVE BEEN AMENDED ON ORDINANCES NOS. 2008-59 THROUGH<br />
2008-69 SINCE 1ST READING TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE OF<br />
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MYRTLE BEACH.</p>
<p>2008-57      ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 10-22 OF DIVISION 1 OF ARTICLE<br />
II OF CHAPTER 10 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MYRTLE BEACH<br />
TO DEFINE AND DECLARE UNPERMITTED EVENTS AND RALLIES TO BE PUBLIC<br />
NUISANCES; TO PROHIBIT THEIR MAINTENANCE AND TO SEEK FINANCIAL REDRESS<br />
FROM THOSE ENTITIES THAT PROMOTE UNPERMITTED SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE CITY.</p>
<p>2008-58      ORDINANCE TO AMEND ARTICLE VI, OF CHAPTER 19, SECTIONS<br />
19-127 TO INCLUDE EVENTS INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS WHICH IMPACT<br />
THE PUBLIC; IN SECTION 19-128 TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER’S ERROR; AND IN<br />
SECTION 19-156 TO SPECIFY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES FOR COST RECOVERY WHEN<br />
THEY PROMOTE UNPERMITTED SPECIAL EVENTS THAT IMPACT THE CITY.</p>
<p>2008-59      ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE I, SECTION 14-1(e),<br />
HOURS OF SALE RESTRICTED FOR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS WHICH ALLOW FOR<br />
ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION OF BEER, ALE, PORTER AND/OR WINE; WITH<br />
EXEMPTION, AND LOSS OF EXEMPTION IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY<br />
OF MYRTLE BEACH. </p>
<p>2008-59      ALTERNATE  ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE I,<br />
SECTION 14-1(e), HOURS OF SALE RESTRICTED FOR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS<br />
WHICH ALLOW FOR ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION OF BEER, ALE, PORTER AND/OR<br />
WINE; WITH EXEMPTION, LOSS OF EXEMPTION AND APPEAL IN THE CODE OF<br />
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MYRTLE BEACH. </p>
<p>2008-60      ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE I, SECTION 14-7<br />
DEFRAUDING A RESTAURANT.</p>
<p>2008-61      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-220, AN ORDINANCE TO<br />
PROHIBIT THE ENGAGEMENT IN RENTAL OF ACCOMMODATION TAX PROPERTY, OR<br />
SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY, WITHOUT PROOF OF ADULT RESPONSIBILITY BY WAY<br />
OF IDENTIFICATION PRESENTED AT CHECK IN; AND TO REQUIRE PARKING<br />
STICKERS, HANGERS, CARDS OR OTHER IDENTIFYING RECORD FOR DISPLAY IN EACH<br />
VEHICLE REGISTERED; AND TO REQUIRE SECURITY AND CONTROL OF PARKING<br />
AREAS; THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.</p>
<p>2008-62      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-221, AN ORDINANCE TO<br />
PROHIBIT THE POSSESSION OR CONSUMPTION OF LIQUOR, BEER, ALE, PORTER<br />
AND/OR WINE IN THE PARKING LOTS ABUTTING CERTAIN PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY;<br />
THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.</p>
<p>2008-63      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-222, AN ORDINANCE TO<br />
PROHIBIT THE DESTRUCTIVE USE OF THE LANDSCAPING AREAS REQUIRED BY ZONING<br />
LAW, AND TO PROHIBIT PUBLIC NUISANCE USES OF PARKING AREAS; THE<br />
VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.</p>
<p>2008-64      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-223 THROUGH 14-227, AN<br />
ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE SAFETY HELMETS AND PROTECTIVE EYEWEAR WHILE ON A<br />
MOTORCYCLE; THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.</p>
<p>2008-65      IN CHAPTER 14 ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-228 THROUGH 14-231, AN<br />
ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT THE PARKING OR STORAGE OF ANY BOATS AND BOAT<br />
TRAILERS, SEMITRAILER, TRACTOR, TRAILER, OR OVERSIZED VEHICLES AS HEREIN<br />
DEFINED ON PUBLIC STREETS AND CERTAIN PRIVATE LOTS; RESIDING IN ANY<br />
PARKED OR STORED VEHICLE PROHIBITED; AND AUTHORIZATION FOR IMPOUNDMENT;<br />
THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.</p>
<p>2008-66      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-232 THROUGH 14-235, AN<br />
ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE SECURITY MEASURES AT CONVENIENCE BUSINESSES; THE<br />
VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION. </p>
<p>2008-67      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-236 THROUGH 14-239, AN<br />
ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A JUVENILE CURFEW, THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN<br />
ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION.</p>
<p>2008-68      IN CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTION 14-240, AN ORDINANCE TO<br />
PROHIBIT THE OPERATIONS OF MOTOR VEHICLES THAT DO NOT HAVE REQUIRED EPA<br />
LABELING COMPLIANCE OR THAT EXCEED ESTABLISHED SOUND LEVELS; TO PROHIBIT<br />
THE OPERATION OF ANY MOTOR VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH ANY<br />
EXHAUST MUFFLER APPROVED BY THIS CHAPTER; THE VIOLATION OF WHICH IS AN<br />
ADMINISTRATIVE INFRACTION; AND TO DECLARE VEHICLES IN VIOLATION TO BE A<br />
PUBLIC NUISANCE, AND IMPOUND, TOW AND STORE SUCH VEHICLES UNTIL THE<br />
VEHICLES CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE CITY LIMITS WITHOUT OPERATION IN<br />
VIOLATION OF THE LAW.</p>
<p>2008-69      ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE V, SECTION 14-85, BY<br />
ADDING (10) TO SECTION (B) PROHIBIT LOITERING WITH A HARMFUL PURPOSE OR<br />
EFFECT BY REFUSING OR FAILING TO LEAVE A PRIVATE BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL<br />
ESTABLISHMENT, OR PARKING LOT THAT IS POSTED WITH CONSPICUOUS “NO<br />
LOITERING” SIGNS.</p>
<p>2008-70      ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 12, ARTICLE III, DIVISION 1,<br />
SECTION 12-102, TO PROHIBIT MORE THAN ONE VEHICLE PER PARKING SPACE; AND<br />
TO AMEND CHAPTER 12, ARTICLE III, DIVISION 1, SECTION 12-132 TO REPEAL<br />
DEACTIVATION FOR MOTORCYCLE PARKING IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE<br />
CITY OF MYRTLE BEACH.</p>
<p>2008-71      ORDINANCE TO ENACT CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE X, SECTIONS<br />
BEGINNING 14-200, ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING SYSTEM AND INFRACTIONS.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-87883</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess MB doesn&#039;t want my vacation dollars from family trips throughout the year. This also confirms my plans to move our 2 company golf outtings to another location. I&#039;m sure MB won&#039;t miss 250 people &amp; my company wasting their money in their town. So here&#039;s to you MB for all the BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess MB doesn&#8217;t want my vacation dollars from family trips throughout the year. This also confirms my plans to move our 2 company golf outtings to another location. I&#8217;m sure MB won&#8217;t miss 250 people &amp; my company wasting their money in their town. So here&#8217;s to you MB for all the BS.</p>
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		<title>By: ROBIN</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-87849</link>
		<dc:creator>ROBIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was done in the past : control everybody different make everyone like us ------- Hitler and the nazis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was done in the past : control everybody different make everyone like us &#8212;&#8212;- Hitler and the nazis</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Greenwald</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-87842</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Greenwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TEK,

How is it up to the businesses if an individual gets a helmet ticket based upon some flimsiness in the Myrtle Beach legislature? The additional misuse of real estate(parking places to one motorcycle per parking space has nothing to do with businesses.  It has everything to lower motorcycle density and greed to get paid for every motorcycle parking in their town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TEK,</p>
<p>How is it up to the businesses if an individual gets a helmet ticket based upon some flimsiness in the Myrtle Beach legislature? The additional misuse of real estate(parking places to one motorcycle per parking space has nothing to do with businesses.  It has everything to lower motorcycle density and greed to get paid for every motorcycle parking in their town.</p>
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		<title>By: TEK</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-87839</link>
		<dc:creator>TEK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is up to the Business in Myrtle Beach. The Business owner need to go to the council Meeting on Sept 23 and voice there $$ that will be lost  to there city. THE TAXES dollars and Business dollars there city will NOT get.  And if this ordinances still passed then there neet to VOTE to get new council menbers on city hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is up to the Business in Myrtle Beach. The Business owner need to go to the council Meeting on Sept 23 and voice there $$ that will be lost  to there city. THE TAXES dollars and Business dollars there city will NOT get.  And if this ordinances still passed then there neet to VOTE to get new council menbers on city hall.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Greenwald</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-87838</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Greenwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We now have a fight in their courts and this is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now have a fight in their courts and this is good.</p>
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		<title>By: WGS</title>
		<link>http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2008/09/11/myrtle-beach-city-council-passes-15-ordinances-to-limit-bikers/comment-page-1/#comment-87835</link>
		<dc:creator>WGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the ordinances (or are they calling them laws) passed today.  Okey-dokey.  I am sure most folks can stay away from the city of Myrtle Beach.  It is a shame what Myrtle Beach has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the ordinances (or are they calling them laws) passed today.  Okey-dokey.  I am sure most folks can stay away from the city of Myrtle Beach.  It is a shame what Myrtle Beach has become.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading all the above posts - one thing is perfectly clear - there are two distinct sides - the ones with the bully platform and associated power (the city council) and the rest of the world.

Has anyone really looked at downtown MB lately? We were there this summer and it honestly looks like a semi-deserted part of town that used to be on the other side of the tracks. The Pavilion seems to have died for no apparent reason - downtown seems to be dying quicker than the dinosaurs and the over hyped Hard Rock Park is pricey and ho-hum at best. 

I have been going to MB for all of my 51 years and this summer was the first time ever I thought - it has lost its magic and it&#039;s time for something different. 

I feel for so many who depend on us for a shot in their economic arms - but - this fall&#039;s attendance will be pitiful.... 

Way to go beuracrats!! You have served your voters well......You are giving them what they want - peace and quiet and squeaky door hinges - just like an old west ghost town...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading all the above posts &#8211; one thing is perfectly clear &#8211; there are two distinct sides &#8211; the ones with the bully platform and associated power (the city council) and the rest of the world.</p>
<p>Has anyone really looked at downtown MB lately? We were there this summer and it honestly looks like a semi-deserted part of town that used to be on the other side of the tracks. The Pavilion seems to have died for no apparent reason &#8211; downtown seems to be dying quicker than the dinosaurs and the over hyped Hard Rock Park is pricey and ho-hum at best. </p>
<p>I have been going to MB for all of my 51 years and this summer was the first time ever I thought &#8211; it has lost its magic and it&#8217;s time for something different. </p>
<p>I feel for so many who depend on us for a shot in their economic arms &#8211; but &#8211; this fall&#8217;s attendance will be pitiful&#8230;. </p>
<p>Way to go beuracrats!! You have served your voters well&#8230;&#8230;You are giving them what they want &#8211; peace and quiet and squeaky door hinges &#8211; just like an old west ghost town&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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