Comments on: Picture Of The week

By: RedNeck

RedNeck — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:42:00 +0000

Roger’s bike deserves the AMD title. No doubt. The innovation on it is absolutely crazy and very functional. This guy has more imagination and ingenuity in his left nut than this whole industry combined. This is a true bike builder, right here. Making a gastank transparent or mess around with a wheel design is nothing compared to the engines Roger seems to be able to create and make actually work.

Can’t please everybody huh Roger… keep up the good work.

By: burnout

burnout — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:41:08 +0000

I “get it” ! I don’t care if the salt corrodes my bike, Every time I go to the beach my bike rusts! I want to go to Bonneville so bad I can taste the salt! Mr Goldammer and Mr Krugger please keep doin what you are doin, I LIKE IT! peace

By: Marilyn Stemp

Marilyn Stemp — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:24:27 +0000

There’s more palpable passion at Bonneville than there are grains of salt! Ask anyone who has spent a ton of money to get there, like Freddie Krugger, and you’ll learn that it’s not about self promotion or making money for your business.

If you’ve never been to the Bonneville Salt Flats, you can’t “get it.” If you have been there and still don’t “get it” then please don’t come back – you’re not needed.

By: Nicker

Nicker — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:02:01 +0000

RE:
“… People have been racing at Bonneville for years because they love [it]…. Not because they need to send in a photo…”

Talking to a guy like Vern Tardel you come away with the understanding that Bonneville isn’t a business enterprise, it’s a “calling.”

And such folks don’t promote Bonneville any more than a dedicated fisherman will promote his favorite fishing hole.

Years ago a story circulated that the SO Cal Timing Association actually turned down a TV promotion offer because the hype, notoriety, and commercialism was seen a destructive to “the Bonneville Experience.” They simply didn’t want Bonneville to end up looking like Daytona.

As enjoyable as the “Wold’s Fastest Indian” was, lets hope it didn’t screw up one of the last great performance venues that still hasn’t been ruined by “the media and the general public.”

IMHO
-nicker-

By: Russell marlowe

Russell marlowe — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:47:20 +0000

Roger is the man!!! Keep on doing your thing, we all will learn from it.

By: ray c wheeler

ray c wheeler — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:54:22 +0000

Looking forward to a stellar event as usual and seeing salt addicts from around the globe. Bonneville is truly an amazing place .

See ya there .

raycwheeler

By: RogerG

RogerG — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:57:48 +0000

Hello all, Bonneville introduced me to a wonderful group of passionate inthusiasts very dedicated to motorcycles and their sport, in some ways kind of refreshing change from a lot of the custom world… I see it as a privilege just to be there, and to run a bike that you built yourself on such an amazing and historic racing surface is about as good as it gets in life for some of us, hard to describe, a very personal experience, but an experience I would encourage others to feel for themselves…
Do I do it for promotional purposes??? certainly not, I probably should, but I don`t.To me it`s simply one of the many cool life experiences I felt i needed to try, not unlike the bikes I build; i`m not really trying to outshine other builders, i want to challenge myself, experiment with new styles, technology or applications and possibly keep it fresh and moving forward… If people like it, awesome, if not, i am ok with that too, but its not going to change what i do.I have also found out lately that some people simply love to hate or only see the negative, usually they are very misinformed and don`t even want to know the truth, but hey, thats their right too i guess….
Anyways to those that “get it”…see you on the salt ! rg

By: krugger

krugger — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:17:55 +0000

i sent this pic to Cyril and i don’t see where is the problem!

I sent this pic to Cyril to share a short part of my wonderfull experience with Roger(and other very nice guys like Klocks crew, Museum trailer guys,Bub crew who give me some help and tools,……)on the salt falt.

i thought too, that ’s very funny to show the Roger’s bike without paint and show the bike is not only a show bike!

I had said : one time in my life ,i will compete on Bonneville.

This trip has been really difficult to realise ,very expensive oversea shipping cost,technical rules not easy to understand with my rough english, 900 hours to build the bike ! Fortunately ,i have find some help on forum(like Landracing.com)about rules ,weather, race suit,….

I work alone in a smal workshop, i choose this style of life to take time with my kids,because that’s my priority

Yes, this experience has been good for my promotion but that’s not the only reason…a few other are passion, challenge,dream,friendship!

At least,i received a wonderfull welcome because when you share the same passion, there are no problem….

By: hoyt

hoyt — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:44:53 +0000

Nitrous Phil – “He’s one of several that cropped up after the poplularity of the movie”

There is no disrespectful self-promotion going on here at all. If someone can build a custom motorcycle that can withstand the tortures of Bonneville (from both a performance and construction perspective), then why wouldn’t they promote the Salt and their work? In addition, if records were set in the process, why wouldn’t a business owner want their prospective customers to know that they can build a quality project?

I don’t get your angle. Competition is good. Those that raced years ago would probably welcome more exposure, and therefore, more competition. (especially on a machine running the type of engine that he built)

By: aft customs

aft customs — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:25:25 +0000

I’ve been in this business 31 years & have seen a lot of trends & people come & go.One thing remains constant however–Bonneville & the desire to be the fastest.Anyone who has ever had the opportunity to meet Roger will tell you 2 things-He is a genious & he is humble.He is a trend setter in 2 arenas–custom bike building & speed.That’s why he is the best custom bike buider in history in my oppinion.Someone took offence to Roger supposedly sending in a picture to promote himself.Let me explain something about marketing.Roger (And most of us ) in this industry are making an average living & cannot afford much in the way of advertising.We need to self promote on sites like this to keep our brand alive & promote our business.It’s called servival.Roger’s fame is good for Boneville because he has helped bring new people to the salt.It’s too bad that he has to wash off the salt because it would make one hell of a statement at the Artistry & Iron show in Vegas.

By: Nitrous Phil

Nitrous Phil — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:08:39 +0000

Brent – My comment has nothing to do with knowing the guy or not knowing the guy.
Plenty of people are gearheads thru and thru and aren’t using sacred grounds like Bonneville to promote themselves. He’s one of several that cropped up after the poplularity of the movie and with the industry being slow – it seems like a good angle for these guys to promote themselves.
Cyril – where did you get the photo?

By: Brent

Brent — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:38:06 +0000

Nitrous Phil,

Do you know “this guy” in the picture? If you are making reference to Roger Goldammer, than you obviously don’t know him… He is a gear head and a racer through and through, with neither a huge ego or the need for attention. His work speaks for him…. Did Roger or Fred even send this photo to Cyril??

By: a 1 cycles

a 1 cycles — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:00:09 +0000

it is the ultimate test of performance of your engine, six miles of torture, corrosion, heat, mushy salt, blistering sun..and i agree one of the most religous motorcycle experiences you can have.the last bastion of pure performance on the planet, get there soon its shrinking every year. save the salt

By: Mike Kiwi Tomas, Kiwi Indian MotorCycles

Mike Kiwi Tomas, Kiwi Indian MotorCycles — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:08:16 +0000

Bonneville is one of the most special places on this earth. When one gets towards it you can’t help but think of all the history that has taken place upon it. It’s the real deal and if there were ever any ego’s going into it they soon disappeared when the racing started as it becomes a brotherhood event. The salt has it’s own way of making it challenging at best and where friendships are made. No pictures can ever explain what it is like in real.
I was fortunate to be part of the World’s Fastest Indian crew and I feel honored that director Roger Donaldson created a resurgence for us all to enjoy weather it be cars or m/c’s.
My hats off to anyone who races upon those sacrad lands.
It’s all good

By: Cyril

Cyril — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:47:46 +0000

The word “scenic” is used here for “amazing”. Desertic and isolated places have their own charm. Ad yes, Rodent, Paris & Rome are for me the 2 two most beautiful big ciies in the world.

By: Nitrous Phil

Nitrous Phil — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:35:52 +0000

As for the “picture of the weak”?
Seems this guy is just shooting Cyril a picture of himself just to promote himself and get attention.
Its getting old.
People have been racing at Bonneville for years becuase they love motorcycles.
Not becuase they need to send in a photo of themselves and use Bonneville an another promo angle. The Worlds Fastest Indian movie comes out and now everyone and there sister is promoting themselves.

Samantha Morgan ran on the salt becuase she loved it! Not because she had a huge ego or needed attention. She did it becuase she could and didn’t give a crap if she came out in the next magazine feature or not.
Jay Allen been setting records for years out there and John Noonan constantly set performance records.
Sure don’t see those guys sending in photos of themself.

Nitrous Phil

By: Big Joe

Big Joe — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:31:19 +0000

Rodent,

Wow, you have to be the first person I have heard describe Bonneville that way. I’m not saying I feel sorry for you as a person but I do feel sorry for you as in that is your impression of Bonneville and that is what you took away from the experience.
I too was there when Samantha set her record, was another great day on the salt. Opposed to you, like many others I feel blessed for every minute I am afforded to spend on the salt with all my friends who love the sport.

To Roger, Krugger and everyone else, See you all in a couple weeks and best of luck to everyone on the salt this week for Speed Week!

Peace
Joe

By: rodent

rodent — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:12:02 +0000

Cyril, to qoute you”in one of the most scenic places on earth”? Have you ever been there? I have, the year Samatha Morgan set Land Speed Records and It is the most desolete place I’ve ever benn, destructive to vehicles, hot, unforgiving climate and land. But to you it’s probably more atractive than Paris. The only thing it’s good for is racing and seasoning food. I prefer HWY 1 in California myself.

By: Doc Robinson

Doc Robinson — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:55:44 +0000

Brad, it is the one in the picture, the very same one. With this bike Roger smashed the myth that world class show bikes are more decorative than practical by building a performance bike first and foremost, making it asthetically beautiful along the way. If you understand his engineering, you give this builder the greatest respect for not only the engines he builds (this is the third of this type of motor) but for other trick components. For example this bike looks like it has old fashion drum brakes. However, that is not the case. Concealed within those ‘drums’ are very functional disc brakes! Before the whining starts about another foreigner winning the AMD competition, let me remind everybody that the builders themselves vote in this event. Winning it is peer recognition unparalled.

By: Brad

Brad — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:06:30 +0000

Was Roger Goldammer new bike made from the one on the picture?