Yuo messed up Senior, you should have given Paulie more room rather than squeeze him out.

Be glad he even mentioned Toledo. Is that Toledo, Ohio? Never even heard of the place until Michael mentioned it and ‘put it on the map’ for me and the rest of the world. I’m sure it’s beautiful! Maybe even a good copy of the real Toledo here in Spain (just kidding ). And I’m also sure neither one beats Abu Dhabi for an experience.

Understandably you feel frustrated at OCCs success and need to lash out and connect them to an evil everyone can readily associate with (terrorism). And rallying Detroit citizens makes sense too. I would also take those cheap shots if I was you. Let ignorance do the rest of the work I say!
Your zealous, rethorical patriotism reflected in words like: move over there…middle east…build bikes for terror…attack…our country… reminds me of Germans in the ’40s. Does that association make sense?

Michael rules! The Ace the Paulies didn’t even know they had.

Chopper craze was a flash in the pan. Ever see resale value on these things, 30% at beat.

There is so much worse crap on TV than a show where a piece of industrial art is made. Like most are, it is subjective, and not everyone likes it. TLC will cover their antics for as long as people watch then they will be on their own. They are smart in that they are leveraging their fame to try and build a long-term business. They may have a rude and goofy personality, but they aren’t stupid business people. Other guys had their shots to have a good show, but they for whatever reason didn’t make it.

Like others have said, many would jump at a chance for this kind of break for their business, including me. They have a niche making corporate bikes for big bucks on TV. More power to them. Work it while it lasts.

Well said people like Natalee and Chopper Suey. I even agree with Stealth. I too have owned my own business now for just over 11 years and work my arse off everyday. If someone came to me and offered me their success I would snap their hand off, and so would everyone on here

How people can say they make crap is beyond me. And how you can say they just bolt on things is a joke. Yes they out source parts and use people like Nubs, but so what? I out source certain sectors in my company. You telling me because of that my business is a joke? I’d like to see you say that to my face, never mind OCC’s…

“Free Advertising to get a Theme bike made”

LOL… it’s obvious you have NO idea how much these companies pay to have an “on air” theme bike built.. ha-ha….

Take the Catepillar bike for example. Cat paid OCC/Discovery OVER 3 million dollars to have thier bike made “ON THE AIR”

There is NO free advertising going on..

The Teutels have nothing to worry about. They have so much money now that there is no danger of them not having the rest of thier lives lived in luxury….

lol… you folks are quite naive…

RE:
“…guys here would have turned down the success of the OCC crew…”
“…it is the fact that they pose as ‘Custom Bike Builders’ …”
“…I thought you Americans applauded success….”

One more time……….
It’s not about success, money, sales, exposure or what OCC can or can’t build.

It’s about acting like moron’s on national TV.
The OCC immage reflects very badly on the rest of us.
There are many intelligent, talented people involved in designing and building scooters.
Just look around ya.

But ever since that show was first put on the air, when it comes up in conversation that you’re involved in designing and building bikes, 9 times out of 10 you’ll get this:

“oh ya, I know, like the three stooges on TV”

Do the customers that contract their work really give a shit about owning a bike or are they simply looking to leverage the TV time?

From my perspective, the damage has already been done.
In “mixed company” i’ll never mention bike building.
Think about this:
When you’re seen out on your scoot, with whom are you being associated?

Enough said.
-nicker-