My question to Mr. Bernauer is still posted openly on this blog and awaiting an answer.
My question referred to Stellican NDAs on GILROY BIKES.

Not to be confrontational–but your telling us that you have not seen or heard of any such NDAs — Well————————————————————
OKAY———–SO?

Hey Brock.
When you say and I quote from your last post
“How about LETS get Indian Motorcycles on the road first…then we can work on the other things.”
Kind of sounds like you are working for them?

Brock , having one dealer (which isnt open ) , having one bike (yes I saw there website) doesnt amount to much , Ive see software companies and computer companies with great intentions and a solid product , tout how they will set the world on fire , only to not make it!

I hope your right at least the name might survive, I dont think putting a few changes to a Gilroy Chief is actually re-(building) Indian , lets face it , its a Gilroy Indian , nothing more , nothing less (which by the way I love,not a bad thing) maybe they should have said they were going to put out 20-40 bikes this year , stating there will be 750 bikes even for an ‘09 model (which is really an ‘04 model Gilroy Chief) may have been more effective , but hey who knows , I wish them well!

Once again , Cyril what I said about you or to you was uncalled for , for that I am sorry!

Ron knows me and knows I look at him as a friend, we dont have to agree to be friends!

Vintage#144

John…not sure what you mean by “Brocks intentions” as I use this moniker everwhere and everyone that is member of IIRA or Public Forum know me…and quite a few know my real name as do you. I am not hiding.

As for buying back the prints from Bill Melvin and collecting heritage. How about lets get Indian Motorcycles on the road first…then we can work on the other things. Better yet…why is it bad that Melvin has those prints? Or why does not someone with much more capital than I can ever dream of garnering like yourself buy them for safekeeping.

My mouth said nothing about what you speak…my desire is for Indian to regain its iconic status with quality bikes and a reputation for reliability without losing their flair. There is the Wheels through time museum…the Springfield Indian collection. Yep they deserve to be brought under one roof but everyone has to have priorities and I believe Kings Mountain is focused on producing a nice bike.
Not warmed over as you say…you are completely wrong there. See I have sat on and seen with my own eyes…have seen the parts list on the wall…and of 1200 parts on bike….over 1100 are brand new and definately not Gilroy era material or quality…much much better. FACT.

Ed…if i misunderstood…fine. The fact is that Gilroy is the one that put out NDAs because of design flaws in Gilroy bikes. That was long before Stellican bought them… I have not heard nor seen any such NDA being issued to current Gilroy owners from Stellican….but have read and talked to persons that had such NDAs issued from Gilroy due to injury or accident due to design flaws that should have been corrected. I still stand by my assumption that you are mixing up the incidents with this current owner when in fact it was the previous. If you know different please post copies or names of those that claim that an NDA was forced upon them by Stellican…as I dont think they know who they are either.

Never been to Cyrils blog before the other day…nice blog. Sorry to see the anti-Indian Motorcycle crowd appear and try to whitewash it as Pro Indian but anti Stellican. I think it is time to go back to where I came as Cyril does not deserve this banter here. He gave an unbiased and honest review….just as others have in past two or three months of their visits to factory and the bikes they observed on dyno, racks, floor, etc.

Ride safe Don, Ed and John….wish you well.

Someone said they are a member for the great benefits of roadside service they offer , well I gotta tell ya , the service sucks , go get AAA , they wont leave ya stranded anywhere , car,rv, boat ,motorcycle ! That wouldnt be my reason for belonging!

Cyryl Huse , sorry dude , but I never heard of you before , until someone made this big stink you were touring there factory , and as soon as you stated “iconic” I knew you were already bought and paid for by Stellican , because thats the only term they know to use !

You may be a custom builder and a good one, but they are a dime dozen now adays , in your honest opinion will these guys make it in this depressed economy ? will you make it or will you simply sell your services as a consultant ?dont get me wrong theres nothing wrong with consulting , but gas prices are skyrocketing , will these guys actualy sell a bike to riders or are these bikes going into rich kids glass boxes ?

Vintage

Don, with respect to Cyril’s blog this is not place to rehash….KC has his facts wrong…the NDAs were with Gilroy era not Stellican. Also, as far as the false names…guess everyone forgets the hundreds of times it was done on CH forum and public forum by people you call friends…whether for fun or not it was all the same. Glad you are happy…let me know when the first CH dealership opens and they go public across the nation. Good luck.

No Brock.
I stated no facts.
I asked Mr Bernauer a question.
In my question.
I clearly stated Gilroy Era bikes.
Stellican NDA settlements.

If you love Indian, and I stongly do believe that you do, then why not work on starting a fund to buy those original 1901 to 1953 Indian drawings owned by Bill Melvin? The bikes will come sooner or later as you have pointed out. However, when does a guy like you question the Heritage? Look what you are getting when this Chief finally arrives!………..A warmed over Gilroy with no chance of mending the old with the new. Where is Starklight or Kiwi in this new Indian? I think you know they are as mad as hell having been attacked after carrying the Indian flag you hold so high. There is no heritage in this game called Stellican. If there was then those drawings would be purchased as if they we gold and peace would be made with Starklight, Kiwi, and Allen Forbes.

You preach heritage. Practice what you preach.

John L. White

PS: The imposter did some fine writing. However the point was that it was not authoried by me as you so nicely point out. Thanks for your kind words. If your name was mis-used, not matter how good or bad those words are, it is a wrong-doing event. I know you question my values and intentions but you should take a look at “Brocks” intentions for a few seconds. Consider that I am using my own name. Perhaps you try it some time. You might have a bit more understanding.

Regardless, what is your opinion with respect to the original drawings owned by Melvin? Are they a priceless part of Indian Heritage or just a box of junk?

I couldnt careless what Indian builds or doesnt build , Ill never own one of there over priced ,not yet proven machines (of course no one has actually seen one , yet) , but I wish the Steve well with there endeavour and I have great respect for John White , it amazes me how little respect I have for IIRA people , ya keep forgetting who spent there time and money making sure that all Indian riders had a same vacation in Branson last year, John White made it possible, he had tools, parts and mechanics on hand , free of charge but you insistant babies even cried about that , ya took the free service and then slammed John !
Go back to your false dreams!

Vintage

I am very excited to see Indians rolling on the highways and backroads of America in larger numbers than before. I am excited to see the smile on a new owners face after a dream is made into a reality. I dont care if it takes 6 months or 16 months…I just want it done correctly with no do-overs. There will be no more second chances I think for Indian.

Let them build them and get it right…for the long haul. Long Live Indian Motorcycles…

Ed, you really need to let this go my Friend.
WE really need to let this go.

Let us concentrate on getting our bikes into production.
The Crazy Horse Motorcycle.

WE need to stop talking so much and worrying about what Indian is doing.
WE have made many demands on Indian.
WE have no right to do so. I now see how silly we must look to outsiders, how silly we should look when we look at ourselves in the mirror.
WE should be men of our word.
WE should lead by example.
WE will build the best all American bikes ever built!!!
WE will price it so it will be affordable to the average working class American … well under $20,000 - under $15,000.
WE will build it with the highest quality 100% American made parts we can find or WE will build what we can’t find!

WE need to let Indian be Indian, and make Crazy Horse what I dream it to be. Bentley built with a Hyundai price.

No more Kool Aid, internet games or name calling.
WE are above that.
Let it go my Friend.
WE have bikes to build.

Ed, you are the bigger man, as big in physical stature as you are in mental stature, act accordingly.

Sincerely
John L. White

WE have been rebuked

Anyone that has knowledge of who wrote these words and logged in my name please call me at 206 498-9400

John L. White, CEO, Crazy Horse Motorcycles LLC

I received a phone call late today with a question about a comment I posted on your Blog. I hereby state that I did not make the entry above that bears my name.

I would like to offer a five thousand dollar reward to anyone that can shed light on the person or persons that are posting using my name. Thank you for noting that my name was used incorrectly.

Sincerely,

John L. White
CEO Crazy Horse Motorcycles LLC
206 498-9400

Chris Bernauer seemed to take an interest and make a response to my questions–you BOYS have turned it into a sham.
You all ride safe–I will also be making this my last post –see you in Branson.
KC

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I’m off to ride my Indian Motorcycle!!