Wade Ramsey
Associate Publisher/General Counsel
IronWorks Magazine

As a publisher I would think that you would want to verify information before you put it out for public consumption. HotBike Baggers is actually audited and we do make the data public. I guess you have no interest in checking data if it doesn’t serve your purpose.

When I talk about Spin, Jan 07 is almost one year old data for this magazine. I know your titles are less than your Jan 07 numbers. I can see no other reason than an attempt to discredit and provide dis-information on a competitor’s product. HotBike Baggers happens to be addressing a growth segment in our market and it is growing. The numbers you allude to reflect Bike-Works sales. You are aware that we combined a rather healthy subscription base from Bike-Works with the promising title of HotBike Baggers. This, like any other product needs to change, modify and respond to the market as required.

You can find the information in the audit sheets. They come out every six months and they are pink. If you want correct information call me. All you have to do is ask.

Jeff Tinnion
Publisher of HotBike, HotBike Baggers and Street Chopper Magazines

If my source for sales data is inaccurate, I apologize. Because Hot Bike Baggers is not audited, and you do not make the sales data public, I have no way of checking the data I receive from various sources.

Thye last sales data we have for what is now called Hot Bike Baggers is the statement you printed in the Jan 07 issue, where you claim 4,249 copies sold on the newsstand and 48,769 subscriptions. If you have grown as significantly as you now claim, congratulations. Where can I find this data to verify your claim and update our records?

According to WalMart, here is a complete list of all street (not ATV or dirt) motorcycle magazines authorized by WalMart for all magazines going on sale after February 1, 2008:

American Iron Magazine, Barnett Magazine, Cycle World Hot Bike, Motorcyclist Racer X, RoadBike Sport Rider, V-Twin 2 Wheel Tuner,

If Hot Bike Baggers has been added back on to Walmart’s like it’s news to me and congratulations are in order to you.

Thanks for helping set the record straight.

Buzz Kanter
Publisher - American Iron Magazine, American Iron Retailer, RoadBike.

I love to read the postings that are on Cyril’s site. When some use it to spread propaganda, I feel I have to step in and comment. First of all, HotBike Baggers has not been taken out of Wal-Mart. If you are going to make comments in a public forum, you might want to get your facts straight otherwise people might not believe you the next time you speak. It is a very successful title at present and extremely relevant to our marketplace. Its newsstand numbers are averaging around 27,000 with subscriptions to add of approximately 44,000. This gives the magazine combined circulation of around 71,000. I am glad I could clear up that bit of confusion.
I noticed that you left out the numbers of any major competitors. HotBike in the last 6 month audit period has combined numbers of 107,533. This breaks down to 77,998 monthly subscriptions and 29,535 average newsstand. It is my personal belief that if you really want a magazine, you subscribe to it and get it every month. That way you can make a choice and you don’t have to worry about where your favorite magazines are sold.

Jeff Tinnion
Publisher of HotBike, HotBike Baggers and Street Chopper Magazines

They account for 12% of China’s GNP.

My first encounter with Wally World was in their home state of Arkansas (I was from the east coast). I was training at Little Rock Air Force Base and there was a store across from the base. I needed some boat shoes for water survival. I figured them being “All American” this and that, I would try them out. It was 1992 and EVEN then, everything I saw was from China!!! I think I have stepped inside a Walmart 4 times since then!! They have also quite selling firearms. At least they have a reason for this decision. They can still kiss my ass!!

I sometimes shop in Walmart and have never seen Easryiders there. I don’t think they sell that kind of magazine.

-nicker-

Here are the latest we have for the paid single copy sales of each magazinementioned in this blog entry.

Please note this is for ALL sales on the newsstand, not just for WalMart:

American Iron Magazine 74,338
RoadBike 24,692
Barnetts projected under 10,000 (Mark, care to share your number of copies sold on the newsstand?)

American Rider 13,106
Iron Works 23,516
Street Chopper 16,331
Robb Report Motorcycling 14,525
Iron Horse projected under 5,000
Hot Bike Baggers 4,249
Motorcycle Cruiser 23,620
Motorcycle Classics projected under 5,000
Cycle World Specials projected under 15,000
Rider 11,834
Ride Texas no idea

Buzz Kanter
Publisher of American Iron Magazine

GR

It’s just Darwin at work- Hot Bike Bagger? Please……

Or no market for the product…???

“… “too many builders, too many manufacturers, too many magazines.”

Spot on Gary.

IMHO
-nicker-

As Gary Spencer said “too many builders, too many manufacturers, too many magazines.”

Not surprised that they cut out the lesser selling ones. But curious what mags they will continue to sell other than American Iron and Roadbike. And how much better do they sell verses the mags Walmart cut off?