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The squeal may be reduced or eliminated by chamfering the edges of the friction material and coating with a brush on anti-squeal product made for the automotive repair industry (the name of which escapes me at the moment). This stuff is pretty wild…you paint it on the friction face of the brake shoe or pad, yes, I said on the friction side. You MUST apply it CORRECTLY otherwise you’ll end up with a gooey mess on the rotors, and YOU may end up a gooey mess on the pavement.

Absolutely!

However, that should also include not yammering for DOT testing.

We who build stuff have to understand the technology and engineering we chose to apply.

RE:
“…continue to improve this brake system,so we can all benefit from this type of brake…”

Benefit from this type of brake…?
Maybe after the laws of Physics have changes.
But till then…? Not on any of my scooters, thank you.

-nicker-

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I just wanted to take a moment to let you all know that BWDC has moved to a new office. We currently do not have internet, or phone service. We are unable to check email, update our website or answer any phone calls. As far as I know we will have the same phone number in the future. Please be patient, all of your questions and concerns will be addressed very soon. Please be aware that I will not be answering any questions on this forum, I just wanted to give you an update. Thank you!

First off…..cool out and take a step back re-read what was written.
I don’t own a 360 brake. I used to work at a custom bike shop that did 360 brake installs. Don’t go blurtin’ out comments until you have all the facts.

Secondly…..I’m not here to bash 360 brake. It’s not a bad design. I just want to know about the test results because I don’t want to see anybody get hurt or killed. I’m sure nobody wants that. I’ve done the install and test rode the brake so I know what it’s capable of.

Third…..I came in here primarily to defend Chet’s character which is being downgraded by many people who don’t know the whole story. People love to assume things while they don’t know jack-squat. Anyone who knows Chet personally, knows he’s a stand-up guy.

-END RANT !!!

Here’s a post I read

Farley Veer ~ Seitzco Motorsports

~ “…thanks for the awesome service and help on the install of these wicked brakes. When I set out to rebuild my bike I wanted a clean look. The 360 brakes fit the bill, show my wheels and work exceptionally well. I have even caught guys laying on the ground under my bike trying to figure out this brake system. I will definitely put them on my next bike. When you install these brakes you need to be prepared to have some extra time to explain; Where’s your brakes?, How do they work?, and Where can I get a set? Thanks again to Chet and the gang.”

Thanks to Chet. You mean the guy that lied and didn’t tell you about how bad these brakes were? Wonder how he can take credit for some things and then come out and bash the company.

Sorry, guess I am turning into a soap box

Morpheus,
SO you know Chett? How did you buy the brake from him? If so is he giving you your money back?

Geez people take this outside. I want to here from the people who bought the brake, not Chetts Bread buddy. I’m not into the soap opera, I want to hear about the brake, and no I am not installing it myself. Which leads to another question.

Anyone from around Stafford County VA? Would like to know if someone had it installed by a dealer around here. I live off of Garrisonville Road in Parkridge.

D
Thanks for an honest opinion!

i received one of the first ever brakes released to the public, it went on the front of a very, very expensive show bike that had a great deal of publicity when it was released, brake fitted correctly and worked as a brake should, but minimal miles were put on this bike so i was still sceptical…

next brake i recieved was fitted on my personal bike, everything work as it should, braking power was good, around 500 in the first week no complaints…

third and fouth brakes fitted went on the front of a bagger, these brakes were a bitch to bleed (read: around 40 hours of fitting and re fitting, testing removing adjusting pads, trying new pads, trying additional products from BDW to increase pressure, new master cylinder from HD, various lines swaps, standard, braided, Russell nylon black line) eventually the brakes worked as a brake is supposed to. Now understand here unknowingly were were doing BWD’s R & D, i found out quote BWD: tests were completed on a motorcycle for only 1000 (one thousand) miles but the bike was ridden like it was 10,000 miles (ten thousand) read into that whatever you want, Dale was the person who told me this!!!!!! happy ending on the third and fourth brakes, i spoke with the customer yesterday and he now has over ten thousand miles on them and his only complaint is they squeal like a freight trains brakes, this we cannot seem to make go away.

next batch of brakes…major overheating problems, brake fluid boiling to the point of locking up the wheels in less than 1/3 of a mile. these were rear mounted brakes.

i spoke to a close friend who is in the braking industry for motorcycles, his view on this is very simple, the brake needs to have enough ventilation to work correctly, a fault in the design he saw was simply the air can enter but cannot exit at the same rate due to the design, a scope addition to the side to create more air maybe a solution but the brake needs one off individual testing for this to be found correct and to be done in a blind test by a independent testing facilty. so brakes on the rear of a bike could always have the possiblity of a problem

i have simply written this for information purposes to let people know i have a customer with 10,000 on these brakes on the front of a bike, i feel others need to know, he had over 8000 miles before i recieved the letter from BWD about the limitation of the brake and weight of the bike/ rider

I have read all the posts and tried to answer questions about your product to my customers with what minimal knowledge I received from Chet about six-nine months ago.
I have been asked by my customers to adapt my custom wheels to your 360 brake for over a year now. I asked Chet to send me a prototype for form, fit, and function. That never happened. Now I understand why. I believe that you have a very good product. With a bit more testing and field experience, it will be a success. I have gone through similar experiences with my products, and others, over the past 35 years. Before getting back into motorcycles parts 10 years ago, I was the Manager of Producibility and Corrective Action on Missile and Target programs at Northrop Corp. In addition to the work at Northrop, I was hired as a consultant by a consortium of aerospace companies (Rockwell, Boeing, Raytheon, TRW, Rocketdyne, etc.) in the 1990’s to author the Manufacturing Management Program Plan and develop the Producibility Risk Assessment Program Plan for the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), better known as the Star Wars Ground Based Interceptor. Neat stuff…I like making motorcycle parts better. All that WMD stuff gets old after a while. I can attest to the need for good design and testing. Good Luck…Keep at it. You will succeed. Scott McLeod, InvaderWheels, LLC. http://www.invaderwheels.com. 614-519-1687

Diary of a test driver
Chet Burozski is a living testament to the increased braking power of the 360 Brake. The Lizton resident was on his way home one afternoon three years ago when a car pulled out in front of him. This was on a bike that wasn’t equipped with the 360 Brake.

He has a myriad of scars to prove how bad the accident was. His knees were wrecked, all the ligaments in one knee were snapped which had to be replaced with a cadaver’s, he fractured his wrist in two places, his hand in two places, and cracked six ribs. He suffered multiple cuts on his body, both shoulders and collarbones separated; elbows cracked, he fractured his sinuses, and had a blood clot on the brain. “When I went to stop, I used a conventional brake and went into a tank slap, an uncontrollable wobble, and got thrown off the bike,” Burozski said.
He spent several months recovering from his injuries. He says the wreck would’ve never happened if he had been riding on 360 Brakes.

Almost the same scenario earlier this year in Myrtle Beach, S.C., another car pulled out in front of him. This time, however, he was riding the 360 Brake. “By the time I saw him, I thought I was done,” Burozski said. “I hit the brakes, cringed and thought I was done and stopped two feet before I hit the car.” Keep in mind that Burozski who calls himself the “One-eyed Polack,” sells the 360 Brake, but it is hard not to believe him. He said it was that incident which led Baldwin and Wilson to believe that the 360 Brake actually creates a down force on the motorcycle keeping more rubber in contact with the pavement. This reduces shaking and increases stability and braking performance.

The first cycle rider to test out the 360 Brake, Burozski originally from New Jersey, lived for several years in North Salem. Burozski, now a Pittsboro resident, has been riding motorcycles since he was 8-years-old. He sports an arm full of tattoos that each have special meaning and a glass eye; a wound he suffered as a teenager, on a motorcycle. “I was born legally blind in my right eye, and I went through four laser beam surgeries from the time I was 11 till I was 17,” Burozski recounted. “They finally corrected the vision to 20/20 and then two weeks later I was riding a dirt bike and a guy threw a stick at me. It hit me in the eye and knocked it out.” His penchant for danger is a result of his philosophy. “If it’s my time; it’s my time, no matter what I’m doing,” Burozski said. “With my luck, I’ll end up falling asleep and choking on a feather out of my pillow.”

He hopes to finish an autobiography in the near future.
- Gus Pearcy

Fishy to me.